Tampa Shipbuilding Co., Inc.Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsJun 8, 194350 N.L.R.B. 177 (N.L.R.B. 1943) Copy Citation In the Matter of TAMPA SHIPBUILDING COMPANY, INCORPORATED and GUARDS, OFFICERS , PATROLMEN AND NIGHTWATCHMEN FEDERAL LABOR UNION No. 22970, A. F. L. Case No. C- 590.Decided June 8 , 1943 DECISION AND ORDER On April 15, 1943, the Trial Examiner issued his Intermediate Report in the above-entitled proceeding, finding that the respondent had engaged in and was engaging in certain unfair labor practices, and recommending that it cease and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative action, as set forth in the copy of the Intermediate Report annexed 'hereto. Thereafter the respondent filed exceptions to the Intermediate Report ,and a brief in support of its exceptions. The Board has reviewed the, rulings made by the Trial Examiner at the hearing and finds that no prejudicial errors were committed. The rulings are hereby affirmed. The Board has considered the Intermediate Report, the respond- ent's exceptions and brief, and the entire record in the case, and hereby adopts the' findings, conclusions, and recommendations made by the Trial Examiner, with the exceptions and modifications noted below : 1. The Trial Examiner has found that Bertram 'J. Kell was dis- charged because of his membership in and activities on behalf of the Union. The respondent contends that Kell was discharged because of repeated drunkenness and because he at times reported for work so under the influence of liquor as to be unable to perform his duties. It appears from the record that Kell frequently appeared at work with a "hangover" or with liquor on his breath; that other employees had been compelled to work his shift on several occasions because of Kell's physical condition, due to drinking; and that Kell, on the day before his discharge, was reprimanded by the captain of the guards for com- ing to work smelling of liquor. Although the circumstances surround- ing Kell's discharge are by no means free from doubt, we are of the opinion that the record does not sustain the allegation in the complaint that Kell was discharged because of his union membership and activity. 50 N. L . B. B., No. 34. 177 178 DECISIONS IOF' NATIONAL LABOR,' RELATIONS BOARD We shall therefore dismiss the complaint, insofar as it alleges that the respondent discriminatorily' discharged Kell, within the meaning of Section 8 (3) of the Act. 2. In concluding that the respondent did not refuse to bargain col- lectively with the Union, the Trial Examiner has found that it is immaterial whether or not the Union represented a majority of the guards between September 10, 1941, and August 22, 1942, because "the respondent did not employ'the guards during this period." We deem it unnecessary to make any finding as to whether the respondent was the employer of the guards during that period. - We agree with the Trial Examiner's conclusion, and we find, that,the respondent did' not refuse to bargain collectively within the meaning of the Act, but on the ground that the record does not show that the Union represented a majority of the guards at any time material herein. 3. The Trial Examiner has found, as the record shows, that since August 22, 1942, the guards have been hired' and paid by the re- spondent. Under the circumstances of the case, we find that the respondent has been the employer of the guards since August 22, 1942. ORDER Upon the basis of the above findings- of fact and the entire record in the case, and pursuant to Section 10 (c) of the National Labor Relations Act, the National Labor Relations Board hereby orders that the respondent, Tampa Shipbuilding Company, Incorporated, Tampa, Florida, and its officers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall: 1. Cease and desist from : (a) Discouraging membership in Guards, Officers, Patrolmen and Nightwatchmen Federal Labor Union No. 22970, A. F. L., or in any other labor organization of its employees, by locking out or refusing to reinstate any of its employees,'or in any other manner discriminat- ing in regard to their-hire and,tenure of employment or .any term or condition of their employment; (b) In any other manner interfering with, restraining, or coercing its employees in the exercise of the right to self-organization, to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in con- certed activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection, as guaranteed in Section 7 of tl e'Act. 2. Take the following affirmative action, which the Board finds will effectuate the policies of the Act : •(a) Offer to all the guards, except Kimbley D. Chissom, who were in the respondent's employ on September 9, 1941, and who have not since been reinstated, immediate and full reinstatement to ' their former or substantially equivalent positions, without prejudice to TAMPA SHIPBUILDING COMPANY, INCORPORATED `179 their seniority, and other rights and privileges, as provided in the section of the Intermediate Report entitled "The remedy"; (b) Make whole, as provided in the section of the Intermediate Report entitled "The remedy," all the guards, except Kimbley D. Chissom, who were in the respondent's employ on September 9, 1941, for any loss-of pay they have suffered by reason of the respondent's discrimination against them,'by payment to each of them 'of a sum of money equal to the amount which he normally would have earned as wages from September 10, 1941, the date of the lock-out, to the date of.his reinstatement or of the respondent's offer of reinstatement, as' the case may be, less his net earnings during such period; - (c) Make whole Kimbley D. Chissom for any loss of pay he has suffered by reason of the respondent's discrimination against-him, by payment to him of a sum of money equal to the amount which he would normally have earned as wages from September 10, 1941, the date of the lock-out, to October 6, 1941, the date of his reinstatement by the respondent, less his net earnings during that period; (d) Post immediately in conspicuous places throughout its ship- yard at Tampa, Florida, and maintain for a period of at least sixty .(60) consecutive days from the date of posting, notices to its, em- ployees stating: (1) that the respondent will not engage in'the con- duct from- which it'is ordered to cease and desist in paragraphs 1- (a) and (b) of this Order; (2) that the respondent will take the affirma- tive action set forth in paragraphs 2 (a), (b), and (c) of this Order; and (3) that the respondent's employees are free to become and remain members of Guards, Officers, Patrolmen and Nightwatchmen Federal Labor Union No. 22970, A. F. L., and that the respondent will not discriminate against any employee because of membership in or activity on behalf of that organization; (e) Notify the Regional Director for the Tenth Region in writing, within ten (10) days from the date of this Order, what steps the respondent has taken to comply herewith. AND IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the complaint be, and it hereby is, dismissed, insofar as it alleges: (1) that the respondent has engaged in unfair labor practices, within the meaning of Section 8 (3) of the Act, by discharging and ref using to reinstate Bertram J: Kell, and by discharging Kinibley D. Chissom on January 22, 1942, and there- after refusing to reinstate him; and (2) that the respondent has engaged in unfair labor practices, within the meaning of Section 8 (5) of the Act, by refusing to bargain collectively with the Union. INTERMEDIATE REPORT t Mr. Dan M. Byrd, Jr., for the Board. Messrs. Sutton, Reeves & Allen, by Mr. Leroy Allen, of Tampa, Florida, for the respondent. I /l 180 DECISIONS IOF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD STATEMENT OF THE CASE Upon an amended charge duly filed on July 28, 1942, by Guards,' Officers, Patrol- men and Nightwatchmen Federal Labor Union No. 22970, A. F. L., herein called the Union,' the National Labor Relations Board, herein called the Board, by its then Acting Regional Director for the Tenth Region (Atlanta, Georgia), issued its complaint on July 31, 1941, against Tampa Shipbuilding Company, Incorpo- rated, herein called the respondent, Hugh Culbreath, an individual, and J. A. Savarese, an individual, alleging that the respondent, Culbreath, and Savarese, had engaged in and were engaging in unfair labor practices affecting' commerce within the meaning of Section 8 (1), (3), (4) and (5), and Section 2 (6) and (7) of the National Labor Relations Act, 49 Stat. 449, herein called the Act. Copies of the complaint with notice of hearing thereon, were duly served upon the respondent, Culbreath, Savarese, and the Union.' With respect to the unfair labor practices, the amended complaint (as amended)' alleged, in substance, that the respondent: (1) since on or about September 1, 1941, has (a) vilified, disparaged, and expressed its disapproval of the Union, (b) interrogated its employees concerning their union affiliations, (c) urged, persuaded, threatened, and warned its employees to refrain from assisting, becoming members or remaining members of the Union, and (d) kept under surveillance the meeting places, meetings, and activities of the Union ; (2) on or about September 4, 1941, discharged B J. Kell [Bertram J. Kell], and there- after refused to reinstate him, because he joined or assisted the Union or engaged in concerted activities with other employees for the purposes of collective bar- gaining and other mutual aid and protection ; (3) on or about September 6, 1941, refused and continues to refuse to bargain collectively with 'the Union as the exclu- sive representative of the employees in an appropriate unit, although the Union had been designated as their representative by a majority of such employees; (4) on or about September 10, 1941, locked-out and terminated the employment of all the guards then in its employ in order to avoid bargaining with the Union, to discourage membership in the Union, and to interfere with, restrain, and coerce the said guards in the exercise of their rights under the Act ; and (5) on or about January 22, 1942, discharged K. D. Chissom [Kiinbley D. Chissom], and there- after refused to reinstate him because of his activities on behalf of the Union. On or about November 27, 1942, the respondent filed its answer to the amended complaint (as amended) denying the alleged unfair labor practices and the appropriateness of the unit. The answer, tinter alia, averred that Kell was discharged "for many good' and sufficient reasons, including drunkenness and reporting for duty under the influence of liquor ..." ; that Chissom was not discharged but had on January 22, 1942, resigned from the respondent's employ ; and that the guards were not locked-out, but that "from and after September 10, 1941, the guarding of respondent's yard was taken over by the Sheriff .. . 'This organization was not officially chartered until on or about October 21, 1941. Nevertheless, it is ieferied to throughout this report as "the Union." ' On or about October 5, 1942, the Union duly filed a second amended charge and based thereon an amended complaint was duly issued by the Board on October 7, 1942. Objec- tions to the issuance of the amended complaint,were overrulediby the undersigned On November 13, 1942, the Boaid issued an amended complaint (as amended). Objections to the issuance thereof,were overruled by the undersigned The amended complaint and the amended complaint (as amended), which were duly served on October 7 and Novem- ber 13, 1942, respectively, upon the respondent and the Union, dropped as parties re- spondent Culbreath and Savarese, withdrew the allegation of a violation of Section 8 (4) of the Act, and in other respects amended the original complaint. 8 See footnote 2, supra. TAMPA SHIPBUILDING COMPANY, INCORPORATED 181 under a' valid and binding contract ...", and that on and after that date the respondent was "not an employer" of the guards. Pursuant to notice, a hearing was held from August 17 and August 21, 1942, and from March 1 to March 15, 1943, at Tampa, Florida, before Howard Myers, the undersigned Trial Examiner duly designated by the then Acting Chief Trial Examiner. The Board and the respondent were represented by counsel and participated in the hearing. Full opportunity to be heard, to examine and cross-examine witnesses, and to introduce evidence bearing upon the issues' was afforded the parties. During the hearing, upon motion, all prospective wit- nesses were excluded from the hearing room until their turn to testify. Each party, however, was permitted to have two persons sit with counsel, even though those persons- were prospective witnesses. At the conclusion of the Board's case, counsel for the respondent moved to dismiss the complaint in its entirety or in the alternative, to dismiss certain portions thereof. The motion was granted without objection with respect to the allegation of surveillance of union meetings, but otherwise was denied. At the conclusion of the hearing, respond- ent's counsel renewed the previously denied portion of his motion. Decision thereon was reserved. It is hereby denied. Counsel for the Board, at the conclusion of the hearing, moved to conform the pleadings to the proof with respect to minor matters. The motion was granted, without objection. The parties were afforded an opportunity to argue orally before the undersigned. Counsel for the Board and for the respondent participated in such oral argu- ment. The parties were then advised that they might file briefs with the under- signed on or before March 20, 1943 No briefs have been received. Upon the entire record in the ease and from his observation of the witnesses the undersigned makes, in addition to the alcove, the following: I 1. THE BUSINESS OF THE RESPONI)ENT ' The respondent, Tampa Shipbuilding Company, Incorporated, is a Florida corporation, having its shipyard and principal place of business at Tampa, Florida. There it is engaged in the construction, conversion, and repair of ships for the United States Navy Department and for the Lend-Lease Administration. The respondent also constructs pumps for the various drydocks of the Navy Depart- ment. For the 12 months period ending August 18, 1942, the respondent's gross receipts amounted to more than $10,000,000 During the same period it pur- chased raw materials amounting to more than $2,000,000, approximately -80 percent of which was received by it "under mandatory allocations of the War Production Board from suppliers located outside of the State of Florida." The boats built, converted, and repaired by the respondent are delivered by it to the United States Government at Tampa, Florida For the 12 months period ending August 18, 1942, the value of the pumps shipped by the respondent to points outside the State of Florida amounted to about Ih0 of 1 percent of its gross receipts during that period. II THE ORGANIZATION INVOLVNi'D Guards, Officers, Patrolmen and Nightwatchmen Federal Labor Union No. 22970, is a labor organization affiliated with the American Federation of Labor and admits to membership employees of the respondent. 4 The findings in this section are based in part upon a stipulation entered into at the hearing by counsel for the Board and for the respondent. 536105-44-vol. 50-13 182, DECISIONS OF NATIONAL-LABOR RELATION'S BOARD Ill. TIIE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES A. Interference, restraint, and coercion; the discharge of Berti ain J. Kell; and the lock-out In August 1941, several of the respondent's guards consulted Glenn McClung, an International Representative ofi the International Union of Operating Engi- neers,' regarding the formation of a union among the guards of the respondent. Upon receiving McClung's assurances of support, these guards then discussed the matter with their co-workers As a result of these discussions, about 20 or 25 of the approximately 79 guards then in the respondent's employ met at McClung's house on the evening of September 4. There the matters attendant to the formation of a labor organization were discussed, temporary officers elected, and Kimbley D. Chissom, a guard, appointed business agent. At the conclusion of this meeting, Warren Peeler, one of the persons who first spoke .to McClung about organizing the guards, mailed a letter to the American' Federation of Labor in Washington enclosing therein an application for a charter and a money order in payment thereof Peeler and another guard named W. M. Wood then went to the respondent's shipyard. There they told Bertram J. Kell, the ser- geant in charge of the guards at that particular time,' about the meeting at McClung's house and asked Kell's permission to speak to the guards then on duty in order to 'get them to join the Union. Kell not only granted the request,but joined the Union that evening and accompanied Peeler and.Wood while they spoke to' the various guards at their respective stdtions. teener and Wood spoke to all the guards then on duty-and obtained the signatures of several Most' of 'those who signed gave Peeler some money to defray the cost of the charter. Before leaving the yard, Peeler handed Kell a book similar to the one in which he and Wood obtained signatures and asked him to give the book to Robert Jones, the "roving -guard"' on the next shift, and to request Jones to solicit the men on his shift. Kell did as requested. Shortly after Peeler and Wood left the yard, the men on the next shift .came on duty. Lee Fegenbush, the sergeant in charge of this shift, was told by Ryan, a guard, that the guards were organizing a union Fegenbush'imme- diately communicated this information to, Vernon B. Callis, the lieutenant of the guards. Callis and Fegenbush then telephoned Chadwick, the captain of the respondent's guards, went to' his house, and the three of them returned to the yard about 1 o'clock in the morning.' Chadwick was informed by Callis and Fegenbush that "they were trying to form a union among the guards, trying to organize." Regarding his activities and those of Chadwick and Callis upon their return to the yard, Fegenbush testified as follows : Q What did you three men do after you got back to the yard? A. Well, we went around to quite a few of the boys and talked to the boys about it. Q. And what did you say to them, Mr. Fegenbush? A Well, we asked them about it, if they had been approached, and several of them said they had Q. Did you tell them anything about being'or not being in the union that night? 6 An affiliate of the American Federation of Labor Peeler and Wood appeared at the yard just prior to the end of the 6 • 00 p in. to mid- night shift A "roving guard" has no particular station ; his duties take him throughout the yard. s The record is clear that the sergeants, the lieutenant, and the captain of the guards are supervisory employees, for whose actions the respondent is iesponsible. TAMPA SHIPBUILDING COMPANY, 'INCORPORATED, - 183 A. They asked me what I thought about it, and what I".thought they ought to do, and I, told them they had a head the same as I did, but in my opinion, I would not join because I did not think you could be a deputy sheriff and guard the shipyard and belong to the union, but I-did not advise none of them what to-do. I told them to use their judgment. Q. 'Now, as a result of talking to these various men in the yard them that night, did you learn anything about Kell? A. Some of them told me that Kell and some business agent, or someone, I would not say who it was, had been around and talked to them and collected dues from some of them . Some of them had put-up, I think it was, a dollar. Callis testified that upon their return to the yard, he, Chadwick, and Fegenbush spoke to some of the guards and were informed that Kell and others "had been around the yard soliciting membership." Chadwick testified that when they arrived at the yard he noticed that Jones "had a notebook in his hand, and he would stop the different guards .:." Later Jones, according to Chad- wick, "came rushing in" to the latter's office and stated, " ... I did not know what I was doing." ° Chadwick further testified that he was of the definite impression that Jones was "soliciting." Chadwick, in his testimony, indicated that the reason for his activities at the yard that night was his concern over the violation-of the respondent's rule against solicitation of all types "in the yard." Callis sought' to justify his actions upon the same ground. Yet, it is significant that Fegenbush did not similarly testify, but, on the other hand, stated that he, Chadwick, and Callis had been told that night that the guards were organizing, and that he advised several of the guards that he "would not join because [lie] did not think you could be a deputy sheriff and guard the shipyard and belong to the union . . . Despite Chadwick's conviction that Jones had knowingly violated the rule, and though he had knowledge of Kell's activities, no disciplinary action was taken against either of these employees for their conduct in this respect. In the circumstances, and from the entire record, the undersigned is convinced and finds that Chadwick, Callis, and Fegenbush did not undertake to enforce the respondent's rule or to halt its violation, but determined to thwart the guards' organizational activities and prevent, the formation of a union- among them. To effect such purposes they questioned the guards respecting their concerted activities, and Fegenbush discouraged affiliation with the Union. This finding is buttressed by the admissions of Chadwick, who testified that "on various occasions" during the summer of 1941, he informed several of the guards whom he supervised, when engaged in conversation concerning the organization of the guards, that he did not "think they will get away with it" and that "the Navy or the Marines might come in, marching in the gate, and we would go out in the opposite direction " He also testified that during 'some of these conversations he stated that he "was afraid" the Navy "might take over and we would lose our jobs, and other people were of the same opinion" if the guards organized. During this period, Chadwick told Guy English,10 after the latter had informed him that the guards were organizing , that he did not ° Chadwick also testified that Jones told him that he'was "going to throw that book on Kell's front porch " The following morning, as he testified, Kell found the book he had given Jones on the front porch of his house with a note reading, "Kell, I did not know that this was a union. Captain Chadwick told me what it is, and I will have no part in it. Jones." 10 A former guard. Now employed elsewhere in the yard. 184 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD "think you will get away with that, because I don't think the Navy will stand for it." Chadwick remained at the yard the balance of the night . Between 9: 00 and 10:00 o'clock in the morning, according to his testimony, he went to the office of George P. Howell, the respondent 's president . There he told Howell that Kell had allowed certain persons in the yard to solicit both membership and money for dues, and that McClung was lone of them. Chadwick testified that Howell then instructed him to "stop it, that soliciting in the yard " ; that he informed Howell that "it has already been stopped " ; and that he thereupon left Howell's office. Chadwick further testified that later he went to the office of ,Bayard C. Stafford , the respondent 's personnel director . Regarding this visit to Stafford 's office Chadwick testified as follows : Mr. Stafford , I think, was in his office alone. I walked in and I said, "Mr. Stafford, Kell has been coming in here with a hangover. He has come in here with the smell of liquor on his breath , when apparently there was no hangover ," and 1 , said, "Sometime back," I said, "I came in the morning and found Kell in my office with his arms folded and his head on ' his arms, and he was asleep and I awakened him," and as I say, he was so drunk he could not talk." I said, "I have talked to Kell ." He said, "Well, bawl him out. Bawl him out. Talk to him." And I said , "I have talked to him and I have bawled him out like a Dutch uncle , but it does not seem to have any effect ," and I said, "I think Kell has gotten to the end of his rope," and he said, "We will have to consider this thing," and he said "to reconsider," he said, "Get rid of him," and I said, "I will do that tomorrow morning," and I walked out and went to the main gate and went home. Stafford testified that on the morning Kell was discharged, Chadwick came to his office and told him that Kell had been in his [Chadwick 's]- office under the influence of liquor 1a and that he "told the Captain we better get rid of Kell" and that later that morning he telephoned to the Sheriff " to lift" Kell's com- mission" Howell testified that on September 5, he came into the yard and saw McClung and H. L. Sander 14 there, and the former was talking to a guard ; and that he telephoned "Chadwick and he was out, and about ten min- utes later he walked into my office and said that he wanted to come over to report that union agents were soliciting in the yard, and I told him to throw them out of the yard and fire the guard that allowed them in." 16 When Kell reported for work on the evening of September 5, he was met by Sergeant McDugald , who asked him for his deputy sheriff's commission and advised him that Stafford had ordered such action. Kell asked McDugald "what the trouble was." McDugald stated that he did not know. Kell then refused to turn the commission over to McDugald 'stating that he had received it from the Sheriff and that he would return it to him. Shortly thereafter Stafford came over to Kell and told him, according to Kell, that he was sorry he had to let him go because he was one of the best men in the yard, "but under the company rules a man could not work [as a guard] unless he had a deputy' s commission," 11 Chadwick stated that this incident took place in August 1941. 12 See footnote 11, supra. According to Chadwick, Stafford was informed by him on September 5 that this event took place "sonic time hack." 11 It was then the respondent ' s practice to have the guards deputized by the Sheriff of tIillsborough County , the county in which the yard is located. 14 A representative of an affiliate of the American Federation of Labor. 16 Chadwick could not recall Howell telling him to "throw [ the union organizers] out of the yard and to fire the guard that allowed them in." TAMPA SHIPBUILDING COMPANY, INCORPORATE'D' 185 and since the sheriff had revoked his commission the respondent ' was obliged to discharge him. Kell further testified that he left the yard that evening with Stafford and rode a few blocks with Stafford in his car , and had the following conversation with him : A. I asked him [ Stafford] if he had any idea what the trouble was, and he asked me was I doing any drinking , and I said no, that I have not even been in any place where there is drinking , except the place where they sell beer, and , in tact I eat lunch in a place where they sell beer, and he let me out of the car. Stafford did not recall any "particular conversation " during the ride, and did not "think" he told Kell the reason for the latter 's discharge . Kell's testimony respecting these events is credited by the undersigned. Later that evening Kell telephoned the Sheriff and asked him why his com- mission was revoked. , The Sheriff told him that Stafford had called him earlier in the day and requested the revocation "and inasmuch as the company paid for the bond," the Sheriff could not do anything other than to comply with the request. On the following day, September 6, McClung and Chissom called upon Stafford for the purposes of protesting Kell's discharge and securing recognition of the Union as the representative of the guards . On this occasion they proceeded to state their purposes . Stafford , according to McClung and Chissom , told them that he would have to- take these matters up with some higher officials, and if they would telephone him on September 9, he would arrange an appointment for them. Stafford testified that he told McClung and Chissom that he would not reinstate Kell because he was "not the kind of man we want on the Guard." He admitted , however, that he told McClung and Chissom that he would discuss the matter of recognition of the Union with some higher official , but testified that he could not recall whether he told McClung and Chissom that he would make an appointment for them. The undersigned finds the testimony of McClung and Chissom regarding their meeting with Stafford on September 6, 1941,16 to be substantially in accord with the facts. The undersigned is convinced and finds that Kell was discharged on September 5, 1941, because of his membership in and activities on behalf of the Union. As found above and as will further be shown directly below, the respondent was most desirous of preventing the guards from organizing . Kell actively aided the organization of a union of the guards . His discharge occurred the day after he gave such aid. The respondent , among its employees , identified but two individuals who were associated with the Union 's organizing drive. These were Kell and Jones . The latter communicated ' to Chadwick his desire to withdraw from the activities in question . On September 5, Stafford , who ultimately caused Kell 's discharge , assigned to Kell no reason for the respondent 's termination of his services , except that the Sheriff had revoked his commission . It is undenied that the respondent induced the Sheriff to cancel Kell's commission . The re- spondent does riot contend that Kell was discharged because he violated the respondent 's rule against solicitation . It adduced evidence and argued that Kell 's*addiction to intoxicants , and its effect upon his work on several occasions, motivated it to sever Kell's employment . Yet, Howell was informed of Kell's union activities early in the morning of Kell's discharge , and ordered the dis- charge of the guard who permitted the union organizers to enter the yard. It 11 Stafford testified that this meeting took place on the day Kell was discharged ; the undersigned finds that he was mistaken in this respect and that it took place on Septeiu- ber 6. 186 ' DECISIONS OF NAT161AL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD is apparent that Dell's union activities , rather than his complicity with others in violating the respondent 's rule, or the charge that he reported for work at various times under the 'influence of liquor or with ' a "hangover ," was the sole reason for his employment termination . Significantly , Stafford testified that an incident which occurred "sometime back" was the immediate reason for Dell's discharge. . On Monday , September 8, Howell met' with the various representatives of the "Metal Trades Department of the American Federation of Labor." 17 At this meeting, according to Howell , he told the union representatives that the closed shop agreement prohibited the guards from being organized," that McClung and, Saiider had breached the agreement by aiding the guards in their organiza .tional efforts and by soliciting on company time and property ," and that in the future the respondent would not meet with the Metal Trades Department in informal meetings 20 to discuss grievances , but would insist that grievances be taken up in the manner prescribed in the agreement . Although Howell testified that he was not opposed to the guards organzing , Guy English testified that in the early part of October 1941 , he and Chissom met with Howell to protest the contract made by the respondent with the Sheriff , whereby the supervision of the guards was placed in the hands of the Sheriff of Hillsborough County,21 and that Howell told them that "he said in this meeting [of September 8] with the Metal Trades [ that] he told Mr. McClung and the other men of the Metal Trades, that unless they did away with this guard union , that they [ the respondent] would not hold a meeting with them [the Metal Trades]." ' English also testified concerning this ' meeting with Howell : Q. Did Mr. Howell tell you any reason he gave the Metal Trades Council [Department ] as to why he would not have the guards organize into the Union? A. None whatever , he said he was not going to have no union guard. Howell denied making these statements . The undersigned rejects his denial and credits English 's testimony?' The respondent 's contention that it merely attempted to stop union activities- on its time and property is without merit and is not supported by the record. The credible evidence discloses its antipathy to the organization of the guards regardless of when, where , and by whom such activities were carried on. At the least , there is concrete evidence which clearly portrays the respondent 's oppo-- sition to the organization of its guards by the Metal Trades Department. In justification of its hostility to the conduct of the Metal Trades Department in- this connection , the respondent urges that the agreement it has with this organization proscribes such conduct . This prohibition does not, in fact, exist. The agreement merely provides for the exclusion of the guards from its coverage . In any event, a provision so limiting the right of employees to 17 On or about July 16, 1941 , the respondent entered into a closed shop agreement with the Metal Trades Department of the American Federation of Labor covering certain named crafts. The guards were among those specifically excluded. >e Howell maintained that at the time of the execution of the contract with the Metal Trades Department , it was understood that the guards were not to be organized by the union signatories . The contract itself does not so provide. 19 The agreement contains no clause forbidding solicitation on company time and property. 20 This was an informal meeting to discuss a grievance. 21 This contract is discussed below. 12 Howell was not a credible witness. An example of his unreliability is hls testimony at the hearing indicating that he knew of the Union as early as September 8, the time .of his meeting with the Metal Trades Department , and his statement in a letter to the Board dated No\ ember 22, 1941, averring that on September 10 he had no knowledge. of the Union. TAMPA SHIPBUILDING COMPANY, INCORPORATED 187 freely choose their own bargaining representative is of no effect." More- over, the Board has enunciated the rule that guards are entitled to repre- sentation by the bargaining agent of their employer's production and mainte- nance employees, provided a separate unit is maintained for them.' Thus, any position, to the contrary is untenable." Accordingly, the respondent's hostility to the Union, as transmuted into, and evidenced by the actions herein described, is violative of the Act. On September 9, the respondent entered into a written contract with the sheriff of Hillsborough County 2° Under the terms of, the contract, the Sheriff assumed "the guarding and policing of the premises" of the respondent, which included "the usual and customary services of watchmen and gatemen." The contract also provided , among other things: 7. The Sheriff shall have full and complete control and authority over said men furnished in compliance with this agreement , including the right to hire and fire said men or otter rights and powers usual and customary to an employer and the [ respondent] shall have no right to designate the men to be employed or the hours of service , or have any control - over'the action of said men, and they and each of them shall be answerable only to the Sheriff ..." In its answer, the respondent asserts that on and after September 10, 1941, it no longer was the employer of the guards. The respondent contended at the hearing that the contract was entered into because of the insistence of the Navy Department that the yard be guarded by persons with authority to make arrests; and that there had been a great amount of stealing of tools and materials from the yard, and the guards then in its employ were unable or unwilling to prevent the thefts . Whatever' may be said as to the validity of these contentions, the fact is that the, respondent's apprehension in this regard was not the motivating ' factor which led to the execution of the contract . Thus, the record shows that guards in the re- spondent 's employ at the time of the execution of the contract were deputy sheriffs with power to make arrests. Furthermore , there is no evidence that the thefts of tools and materials were due to the negligence or incompetency of the guards. The respondent also contended at the hearing that "the guards were turned over to the sheriff" because the Sheriff would ' not deputize any guard who was not an adherent of the political party to which the Sheriff belonged , and for that reason the respondent was unable to hire many able and competent per- sons to guard the yard. This contention is contrary to the credible evidence adduced at the hearing. In fact, James Gray, the respondent's secretary and treasurer, did not testify to any instance prior to September 9, 1941, where the Sheriff refused to deputize a guard suggested by the respondent, except for Sheriff, Meyers testified that between April, 1941 and September 9, 1941, 'he the cases of two individuals with criminal records. Former Chief Deputy had complete charge of deputizing the respondent's guards, and that at no "Matter of Packard Motor. Car Company and International Union, United Automobile Aircraft it Agricultural Implement Workers of America, Local No. 11i , 47 N L. R B 932 "Matter of Packard Motor Car Company , etc, supra ; Matter of Chrysler Corporation,- Highland Park Plant and Local 114, United Automobile, Aircraft it Agricultural Imple- ment Workers, 44 N. L. R. B. 881. 25 The respondent also contended that guards who are members of the same union as the workers they observe are incapable of properly performing their policing duties This contention is likewise without merit. See Matter of Chrysler Corporation , etc., supra 95 This contract , by its terms , became effective at 12 :01 a. in . on September 10, 1941. 188 DECISIONS IOF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD- time was any guard refused a commission if he had no known criminal record. Meyers further testified that during that period, several of the respondent's guards who had opposed the election of the Sheriff were deputized. The undersigned is convinced and 'finds that the contract of September 9, 1941, was entered into by the respondent for the sole purpose of defeating the organizational drive of the Union, and to provide the respondent with an avenue of escape so that it would not be compelled to bargain collectively, with the Union. This finding is supported by a statement made by Gray to McClung on or about September 10, when McClung telephoned Gray for an appointment to meet with Howell to discuss the recognition of the Union by the respondent., During this conversation Gray told 'McClung that the guards had been "turned over 'to the sheriff," that the Sheriff was going to police the yard, and that,` therefore, the Board did not have any jurisdiction in the matter. This find- ing is further supported by the testimony of English who stated that in the early part of October 1941, he went 'to Stafford's office in an endeavor to be reinstated as a guard after being discharged by the Sheriff, and that Stafford' told, him, "I cannot get you reinstated in the Guard . . . The Company is not going to take the guards back; and [we're] not going to have a union guard ... [and] `the sheriff is the man'to decide"' whether he would reinstate him. Stafford did not specifically deny making the statement attributed to him by English. The undersigned credits English's testimony and finds that Stafford made the above quoted statement. - The undersigned concludes and, finds that the respondent entered into the contract for the purpose of discouraging its guards from joining 'or remaining members of the Union. The facts found above leave room for no other con- elusion. The contention of the respondent that the guards' union activities played no part in its determination to enter into this contract is not supported by the credible evidence. ' By, the terms of the contract, the respondent locked- out its guards at midnight, September 9, 1941, and by such action the respondent committed an unfair labor practice within the meaning of the Act.27 The undersigned further finds that the respondent discriminated against Bertram J. Kell on September 5, 1941, and its guards on September 9, 1941, with respect to their hire and tenure of• employment and other conditions of employ- ment, thereby discouraging membership in the Union, and that by such acts and' conduct, and other acts and conduct detailed above, the respondent interfered with, restrained, and coerced its employees in the exercise of the rights guaran teed in Section 7 of the Act. • B. The alleged refusal to bargain collectively 1. The appropriate unit The amended complaint (as amended), alleges that the appropriate unit consists of all "guards of respondent employed in its Yard, exclusive of Ser- geants, Lieutenants and the Captain." The respondent's answer avers "that a unit appropriate for the purpose of collective bargaining must include all of the employes of the Yard" and that under the terms of the closed shop agreement with the Metal Trades Department, the guards, together with certain other employees are, "because of the very nature of their work, excepted from organi- zation by labor union.,' The respondent's contention (1) that the guards, by the provisions of the closed shop contract, are barred from joining any labor organization affiliated with the American Federation of Labor, and (2) if the 27 On or about August 22 , 1942, the United States Coast Guard "took over" the guards then employed at the yard , -and ever since that date the guards are under the supervision of the Coast Guard, although they are hired and paid by the respondent. TAM1 A SHIPBUILDING COMPANY,' INCORPORATED 189 guards were associated with an organization which represents the respondent's production and maintenance employees, whose activities they watch and guard, their efficiency would be materially lessened, are, as found above, without merit. Under the circumstances of this case, the undersigned finds that all the respond- ent's guards, exclusive of Sergeants, `Lieutenants and the Captain, at all times material herein, constituted and now constitute a unit appropriate for the pur- poses of collective bargaining with respect to rates of pay, wages, hours of employment, or other conditions of employment, and that said unit insures to the employees of the respondent the full benefit of their right to self-organization and collective bargaining and otherwise effectuates the policies of the Act. 2 Representation by the Union of a majority in the appropriate unit On September 4, 1941, as found above, 20 or 25 of the guards in the respondent's employ met at McClung's house and there formed the, Union. The respondent's pay roll for the week ending September 9, 1941, lists 79 guards in the unit found to be appropriate. There were received in evidence two books which contained the names of 30 guards in the appropriate unit 2D who joined the Union sometime between September 4 and 9, 1941. There is in the record oral testimony by former guards W. M. Wood and Harry Al. Church that the former saw five and the latter saw four named guards whose names do not appear in the books id evidence sign books similar to those in evidence. These books were not produced at the hearing. Peeler testified that the Union had six books, including those received in evidence, in which the guards who signified their willingness to join the Union signed their names, and that he made a thorough search for the four missing books; but was unable to find them. Although Church stated definitely that the four he saw sign (lid so on September 5, Wood testified that the five he observed, signed in September or October, and he did not specifically identify any one of this group as having signed on or before September 9 The testimony submitted in support of the Union's claim of majority is weak and unconvincing. It is true that Chissom and English insisted that the Union had a majority before September 10. However, they did not specify by name any of the guards who signed the missing books. The undersigned finds that on September 9, the Union represented at most 34 guards in the unit of 79 on that date, and that it was not designated by the majority of the guards as their bargaining agent on or before then. - Whether or not it represented a majority between September 10, 1941, and August 22, 1942, is immaterial,' since the respondent did not employ the guards during this period, having again become their employer on or about August 22, 1942, at which time there is no evidence that a majority of the guards -.,selected the Union as their bargaining representative. The undersigned shall accordingly recommend that the complaint be dismissed insofar as it alleges that the respondent violated Section 8 (5) of the Act. 1 C. The alleged discriminatory discharge of Kimbley D. Chissom Chissoni was first employed by the respondent as a guard on March 10, 1941. He was locked-out with his fellow guards on September • 10. 'On October 6, he was employed by the respondent as a checker and remained in its employ until January 22, 1942, on which date he was discharged. Upon obtaining employ- ment as a checker, under the respondent's closed shop contract with the Metal Trades Department, Chissom joined the union which covered checkers. 's Cf. Matter of Chrysler Corporation, etc, supra. 29 The names of these 30 appear on the respondent's payroll of the week ending Septem- ber 9, 1941 ; one additional name, so far as it is legible , is not listed thereon , or is a dupli- cate of one already included in the 30. The figure 30 is reached after excluding duplica- tions of signatures. i I I 190 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Chissom testified in substance as follows concerning the events which occurred on, the day of his discharge: At the end of his shift on January 22, he was notified that the Bead Checker, Oliver Surprise, wanted to see him. He imme- diately went to Surprise's office and was handed a termination slip. He waited for several hours until Surprise came in, and asked Surprise why he *as dis- charged. Surprise then said, "Oh, you are an 'agitator." Immediately there- after he went to Stafford's office. to ascertain the reason for his discharge.` Stafford called in Surprise. Surprise, when he saw Chissom in Stafford's office, said to him, "You are trying to create trouble now." Surprise left Stafford's office and Chissom told Stafford that he did not want to leave "this a-way." Chissom did not want the "discharge" against his record because he wished to obtain a civilian job with the Army in the near future. At Stafford's suggestion, he signed a letter resigning from the respondent's employ. Surprise and his assistant, Arthur Lehman, both testified that Chissom was discharged because of incompetency and neglect of duty. Lehman stated that on several occasions he warned Chissom that-he was not performing his duties properly. Chissom did not deny this. Lehman, as Surprise testified, informed Surprise two or three times that Chissom neglected his work. Nor did Chissom deny Surprise's testimony to the effect that Surprise placed him on several jobs and on several different shifts in order to find a job which he could perform. Surprise further, testified, and it is undenied, that not only was Chissom incom- petent to perform the tasks assigned to him, but that instead of trying to per- form them Chissom spent much of his time walking around the yard talking to other employees. Surprise's version of, the conversation which took place between Chissom and himself on the day of Chissom's discharge contains no mention of a statement that Chissom was an "agitator." 'Furthermore, Surprise testified that on January 22, he told Chissom that his work was unsatisfactory. In the circumstances, the undersigned credits Surprise's testimony and finds that he made no reference to Chissom as an "agitator." On the day of his discharge, as Lehman's uncontradicted testimony shows, Chissom failed to fill out 50 of the approximately 85 time cards on which he was supposed to report in detail respecting certain operations of employees whose work he "checked." Lehman conveyed this information to Surprise and the-latter effected Chissom's discharge. Although Surprise knew Chissom had been active in the Union there is no persuasive evidence to indicate that Chissom was discharged for his activities iii the Union's behalf. In view of the foregoing, the undersigned finds that, Chissom was discharged for incompetency and neglect of duty and not in violation of the Act. The undersigned will accordingly recommend that the complaint with respect to Kimbley D. Chissom be dismissed as to his discharge on -January 22; 1942. IV. THE EFFECT OF THE UNFAIR LABOR PRAOTICES UPON COMMERCE The activities of the respondent set forth in Section III above, occurring in connection with the operations of the respondent described in Section I above, have a close, intimate, and substantial relation to trade, traffic and commerce among the several States, and tend to lead to labor disputes burdening and obstructing commerce and the free flow of commerce. V. THE REMEDY Having found that the respondent has engaged in certain unfair labor practices, the undersigned will recommend that it cease and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative action designed to effectuate the policies of the Act. TAMPA SHIPBUILDING COMPANY, INCORPORATED 191 It has.been found that the respondent discriminated in regard to the hire and tenure of employment of Bertram J. Kell by discharging him on September 5, '1941. At the'time of the hearing, Kell was in the military service of the United States and is accordingly not available for immediate reinstatement. Therefore, the undersigned will recommend that the respondent, upon aiplication by Kell within forty (40) days after his discharge from the armed forces of the United States, offer him reinstatement to his former or a substantially equivalent position, without prejudice to his seniority or other rights and privileges. The under- signed will further recommend that the respondent make Kell whole for any loss of earnings he may have suffered by reason, of the respondent's discrimination against him, by payment to him of a sum of money equal to the amount he would normally have earned as wages during the period (1) between the date of his discharge by the respondent and the date of his entering the armed forces of the United States, and (2) between the date five" (5) days after Kell's timely application-for reinstatement, and the date of the offer of reinstatement by the 'respondent, less his net earnings "0 during those periods. The fact that Kell may become entitled to further back pay following his timely application for reinstate- ment upon his discharge from the armed forces of the United States shall not be regarded as affecting the respondent's obligation to pay him, immediately whatever amount is due him from the date of his discharge by the respondent to the date he entered the armed forces of the United States, less his net earnings during that period."1 It has been found above that the making of the contract with the Sheriff of Hillsborough County was an action taken in pursuance of the respondent's unfair labor practices. It has also been found above that by entering into the said contract the respondent locked-out the guards then in its employ in order to discourage membership in the Union and to avoid collective bargaining. The normal necessary action to remedy the respondent's unfair labor practices is to require that the respondent offer immediate and full reinstatement, without prejudice to their seniority and other rights and privileges, to all the guards in the respondent's employ on September 9, 1941. There are no circumstances in this case which would warrant a departure from this normal procedure. Ac- cordingly, it will be recommended that the respondent offer to all the guards locked-out by it on September 10, 1941, immediate and full reinstatement to their former or substantially,equivalent positions, without prejudice to their seniority and other rights and privileges, and make them whole for any loss of pay they may have suffered by reason of the respondents discrimination against them by payment to each of them of a sum of money equal to the amount he normally would have earned as wages from the date of his discharge as a result of the lock-out, to the date of the offer of reinstatement, less his, net earnings during such period. Should it develop, as appears likely from the record, that any of the guards locked-out are in the armed forces of the United States at the time of the issuance of this Intermediate Report, it will be recommended that the respondent, 3° By "net earnings" Is meant earnings less expenses , such as for transportation, room, and board , incurred by an employee in connection with obtaining work and working else- ,where than for the respondent , which would not have been incurred but for his unlawful discharge and the consequent necessity of his seeking employment elsewhere. See Matter of Crossett Lumber Company and United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America, Lumber and Sawmill Workers Union, Local 2590, 8 N. L R. B. 440 . Monies received for woik performed from Federal, State , county, municipal , or other work -relief projects shall be considered as earnings . See Republic Steel Corporation v. N L, R 'B., 311 U: S. 7. "Matter of American Laundry Machine Company and United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America, 45 N. L . R. B. 355. _ 192 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL, LABOR RELATIONS BOARD upon application by such employees within forty (40) days after their respective discharges from the armed forces of the United States, offer to each, reinstate- ment to his former or substantially equivalent position without prejudice to his seniority and other rights and privileges. In making whole any such individ- ual for any loss of earnings he may have suffered by reason of the respondent's discrimination against him, it will be recommended ,that the respondent pay to each a sum of money equal to the amount he normally would have earned as wages during the period (1) between the date of his discharge by the respond- ent to the date of his entry into the armed forces and (2) between a date-five (5) days after his timely application for reinstatement as provided above and the date of the respondent's offer of reinstatement, less his net earnings during those periods. With reference to Chissom, although he was a guard at the time of the lock-out, since he was given substantially equivalent employment by the respondent on October 6, 1941, and subsequently was discharged for cause on January 22, 1942, it will not be recommended that the respondent offer him reinstatement. It will, however, be recommended that the respondent make him whole for any loss of earnings he may have suffered by reason of the respondent's discrimination ,against him on September 10, 1941, by payment to him of a sum of money equal to the amount he normally would have earned as wages from September 10 to October 6, 1941, less his net earnings during that period. Having found that the Union did not represent a majority of the respondent's employees on or before. September 9, 1941, or on and after August 22, 1942, and, therefore, the respondent did not refuse to bargain collectively with the Union, and that the respondent did not discriminatorily discharge Kimberly D. Chissom on January 22, 1942, the undersigned will recommend that the complaint in these respects be dismissed. Upon the basis of the above findings of fact and upon'the entire record in the case, the undersigned makes the following : CONCLUSIONS of LAW - 1. Guards, Officers, Patrolmen and Nightwatchmen Federal Labor Union No. 22970, affiliated with the American Federation of Labor, is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2 (5) of the Act. 2. By,discriminating in regard to the hire and tenure of employment of Ber- tram J. Kell on September 5, 1941 and all the guards in the respondent's employ on September 9, 1941, thereby discouraging membership in Guards, Officers, Patrolmen and Nightwatchmen Federal Labor Union No. 22970, the respondent has engaged in and in engaging in unfair labor practices, within the meaning of Section 8 (3) of the Act. 3. By interfering with, restraining, and coercing its employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act, the respondent has engaged in and is engaging in unfair labor practices, within the meaning of Section 8 (I) of the Act. 4. The aforesaid unfair labor practices are unfair labor practices affecting -commerce within the meaning of Section 2 (6) and (7) of the Act. 6. The respondent has not discriminated with respect to the terms and 'con- ditions or hire and tenure of employment of Kimbley D. Chissom insofar as his discharge on January 22, 1942, is concerned _ 6. All the guards employed by the respondent at its Tampa, Florida, shipyard, 'except Sergeants , Lieutenants , and the Captain , at all times material herein, 'constitute'and now constitute a•unit appropriate for the purposes of collective bargaining, within the,meaning of Section 9 (b) of the Act. TAMPA SHIPBUILDING COMPANY, INCORPORATED 193 7. The Union, at all times material herein, did not represent a majority in the appropriate unit, and, therefore, the respondent has not refused to bargain collectively with it, within the-meaning of Section 8 (5) of the Act. RECOMMENDATIONS Upon the basis of the above findings of fact and conclusions of law, the under- signed recommends that the -respondent, Tampa Shipbuilding Company, Incor- porated, its officers, agents, successors , and assigns shall: 1. Cease and desist from : (a) Discouraging membership in Guards, Officers, Patrolmen and Nightwatch- men Federal Labor Union No. 22970, or any other labor organization of its employees , by laying off, lockingout, discharging, or refusing to reinstate any of its employees, or in any other manner discriminating in regard to their hire and tenure of employment or any term or condition of their employment ; (b) In any other manner interfering with, restraining, and coercing its employ- ees in the exercise of their rights to self-organization, to form, join, or assist labor organizations , to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection,' as guaranteed in, Section 7 of the Act. 2. Take the following affirmative action which the undersigned finds will effectuate the policies of the Act : (a) Offer to Bertram J. Kell and all the guards in the respondent's employ on September 9, 1941, except Kimbley D. Chissom, immediate and full rein- statement to their former or substantially equivalent positions without prejudice to their seniority and other rights and privileges in the manner set forth in "The remedy." (b) Make whole, in the manner set forth in "The remedy," Bertram J. Kell, and' all the guards, except Kimbley D. Chissom, in the respondent's employ on September 9, 1941, for any loss of pay they may have suffered or may hereafter suffer by reason of the respondent's discrimination against them ; also make whole as provided in "The remedy" Kimbley D. Chissom for any loss of pay he may have suffered by reason of the discrimination against him. (c) Post immediately in conspicuous places throughout its shipyard, at Tampa, Florida, and maintain for a period of at least sixty (60) consecutive days from the date of posting notices to its employees stating: (1) that the respondent will not engage in the conduct from which it is recommended that it cease and desist in paragraphs 1 (a) and (b) of these recommendations; (2) that the respondent will take the affirmative action set forth in paragraphs, 2 (a) and (b) of these recommendations; and (3) that the respondent's employees are free to become or remain members of Guards, Officers, Patrolmen and Night- watchmen Federal Labor Union No. 22970, and that the respondent will not discriminate against any employee because of membership in or activity on behalf of that organization ; (d) Notify the Regional Director for the Tenth Region in writing within ten (10) days from the date of the receipt of this Intermediate Report what steps, the respondent has taken to comply herewith. It is further recommended that the allegations of the complaint as to Kimbley D. Chissom's discharge on January 22, 1942, be dismissed, as well as the allega- tions with respect to the respondent's refusal to bargain collectively with the Union. It is further recommended that unless on or before ten (10) days from the 194 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD receipt of thisfIntermediate Report, the respondent notifies said Regional Direc- tor in writing that it will comply with the foregoing recommendations, the- National Labor Relations Board issue an order requiring the respondent to take the action aforesaid. As provided in Section 33 of Article II of the Rules and Regulations of the National Labor Relations Board, Series 2-as amended, effective October 28, 1942-any party may within fifteen (15) clays from the date of the entry of the order transferring the case to the Board, pursuant to Section 32 of Article II of said Rules and Regulations, file with the Board, Shoreham Building, Wash- ington, D. C., an original and four copies of a statement'in writing setting forth such exceptions to the Intermediate Report or to any other part of the record or proceeding (including rulings upon all motions or objections) as he relies upon, together with the original and four copies of a brief in support thereof. As further provided in said Section 33, should any party desire permission to argue orally before the Board, request therefor must be made in writing to the Board within ten (10) days after the date of the order transferring the case to the Board. - Howamn MYERS, Trial Examiner. 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