Montgomery Ward & Co., Inc.Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsDec 14, 1984273 N.L.R.B. 1226 (N.L.R.B. 1984) Copy Citation 1226 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Montgomery Ward & Company, Incorporated and Joseph F. Steele. Case 32-CA-2797 14 December 1984 DECISION AND ORDER BY MEMBERS ZIMMERMAN, HUNTER, AND DENNIS On 8 October 1981 Administrative Law Judge David G. Heilbrun issued the attached decision. The General Counsel filed exceptions and a sup- porting brief, and the Respondent filed a reply brief. On 16 December 1982 the National Labor Relations Board remanded the proceeding to the judge for additional findings of fact and credibility resolutions. On 24 May 1983 the judge issued the attached supplemental decision. The General Coun- sel filed exceptions and a supporting brief, and the Respondent filed a brief in support of the supple- mental decision. The National Labor Relations Board has delegat- ed its authority in this proceeding to a three- member panel. The Board has considered the decision, the sup- plemental decision, and the record in light of the exceptions and briefs and has decided to affirm the judge's rulings, findings, and conclusions only to the extent consistent with this Decision and Order. The judge found that the Respondent's investiga- tory interview of Joseph Steele on 23 May 19801 was conducted in accord with the principles set forth in NLRB v. J. Weingarten, 420 U.S. 251 (1975), and did not violate Section 8(a)(1). We dis- agree. Many of the facts concerning the Respondent's 23 May interview of Steele were undisputed. The parties disagreed, however, on certain key issues.2 Certain of these issues were the subject of the Board's remand order. A compilation of the cred- ited evidence follows. On 23 May Work Supervisor Joe Beggs took Steele, an 11-year warehouse employee of the Re- spondent, to one of the Respondent's offices.3 There Security and Safety Manager Roger Peter- son and Chief Investigator Melvin Lee asked Steele to sign a "Consent to Interview" form. 4 Steele ' All dates refer to 1980 unless otherwise stated 2 Steele was the only person to testify at the hearing The remainder of the record is documentary evidence, including Steele's pretrial affidavit and two grievance letters he submitted to the Respondent Discrepancies between Steele's testimony and the documents required credibility resolu- tions 3 The parties substantially agree about what transpired during the interview The dispute centers on the interpretation of the "facts" and their legal implications 4 The form provided signed the document. Peterson then interrogated Steele about the alleged theft of company property. Early in the interview Steele asked that his "work supervisor" be allowed into the interview.5 Peterson denied Steele's request, stating that he could not see anyone and that a tape recording 6 of the interview would serve as his protection.7 Peterson continued to interrogate Steele for more than 2 hours. During the interview, Steele was accused of stealing property from the ware- house. Steele denied the charge. As the interroga- tion continued, the Respondent made several refer- ences to possible police involvement. At some point the Respondent handed Steele a merchandise catalog and told him to leaf through it. As he did so, Peterson noted certain items contained on pages at which Steele hesitated. Peterson then presented Steele with the list of merchandise, stating that Steele's hesitation demonstrated that he had stolen the listed items. Peterson totaled the costs for the listed items and told Steele that, if he admitted his guilt and paid for the items totaling $170.66, he might save his job. Steele signed a statement admitting his guilt and agreed to pay for the items. Steele was sent home. On the following workday, Steele presented the Respondent with a check for $170.66. He was then discharged. Contrary to the judge, we find the Respondent denied Steele his Weingarten rights and, consequently, violated Section 8(a)(1). The Supreme Court's Weingarten decision sets forth several basic principles relevant to the instant case. First, Weingarten applies to investigatory interviews that an employee reasonably believes I agree that representatives at Montgomery Ward & Co. Inc , may interview me, commencing from the time designated below [11 37 a m ] on matters relating to company business It is fully understood that I am free to leave this interview at any time I so desire 5 In his original decision, the Judge limited his analysis to the finding that Steele had asked to be represented by a "supervisor," within the meaning of Sec 2(11) of the Act, and the conclusion that a request for such a person was insufficient to Invoke Weingarten protections Because we believed the Respondent's reply to Steele's request to be crucial, we remanded the case to the Judge for appropnate findings 6 At the hearing the Respondent conceded that part of the interview was taped Counsel for the Respondent, however, stated that the tape was lost 7 We would have preferred that the Judge provided us a more precise statement of the Respondent's reply to Steele's request than is contained in the supplemental decision The Judge, however, did specifically find that the Respondent replied "in a general sense any device that could record and thus perpetuate spoken words would be representative of the exchange then underway and intended to be continued " In addition, the Judge specifically found in his original decision, and implicitly found in the supplemental decision, that Steele's grievance letters most accurately recited the 23 May events In each of these letters, as well as in his oral testimony and pretrial affidavit, Steele stated that his request met with a denial, the statement that he could not see anyone, and that the tape re- cording would serve as his protection Accordingly, we specifically credit Steele's testimony concerning the Respondent's reply to his re- quest 273 NLRB No. 154 MONTGOMERY WARD & CO 1227 may result in his or her discipline. 8 Such an inter- view occurred here. Secondly, the employee sub- jected to the interview must request representation. Third, when presented with a request, the employ- er must either grant the request, present the em- ployee with the option of continuing the interview unrepresented or forgoing the interview altogether, or deny the request and terminate the interview. The second and third principles require examina- tion here. As stated above, Steele requested the presence of his "work supervisor" at the interview. The Re- spondent denied his request, stating that he could not see anyone and that a tape recorder would serve as his protection. The judge found that, be- cause a supervisor is not a representative within the meaning of Weingarten, Steele's request was "ster- ile" and insufficient to invoke the Weingarten pro- tections. The judge erred in analyzing the efficacy of Steele's request without reference to the Re- spondent's reply. In determining whether an employee's request is sufficient to invoke Weingarten protections, the Board has held generally that the request must be sufficient to put the employer on notice of the em- ployee's desire for representation. Southwestern Bell Telephone Co., 227 NLRB 1223 (1977). The Board has also held, however, that when an employee re- quests a representative who is unavailable, the em- ployer can deny the request and is not required to postpone the interview, secure an alternative repre- sentative, or otherwise take steps to accommodate the employee's specific request. The Board has held that in such circumstances the employee has the right and, indeed, the obligation to request an alternative representative in order to invoke the Weingarten protections. Coca-Cola Bottling Co. of Los Angeles, 227 NLRB 1276 (1977). Applying these concepts, we assume for pur- poses of this decision that the person Steele re- quested as a representative was a statutory supervi- sor and ineligible to serve as a Weingarten repre- sentative. Nevertheless, we find that Steele's re- quest put the Respondent on notice that he desired representation. That the Respondent knew of Steele's desire for representation is reflected by the response that Steele could see no one and that the 8 Member Hunter disassociates himself from any implication that un- represented employees enjoy Weingarten nghts Member Hunter notes that the employees in question in Weingarten were part of a unit repre- sented by a union For the reasons set forth in his concurring and dissent- ing position in Materials Research Corp, 262 NLRB 1010, 1021 (1982) Member Hunter would not expand these nghts to cover unrepresented employees In the present case, Member Hunter agrees that employee Steele is entitled to the Weingarten protections since at the time of the investigatory interview, Steele was a member of a bargaining unit repre- sented by a union recording would serve as his representative. 9 The Respondent's reply was preemptive and effectively prohibited Steele from making a further request for representation. Accordingly, Steele was precluded from exercising an employee right, recognized in Coca-Cola, to request an alternative representative after the employer lawfully denies an initial request for a particular representative. In effect, the Re- spondent told Steele that no matter who he re- quested as a representative, he would have to be content with a tape recording of the interview. In short, we find that Steele's request, in light of the Respondent's preemptive denial, was sufficient to invoke the Weingarten protections. The Respondent failed to exercise any of the le- gitimate options available to it after denying Steele's request for representation. Instead, the Re- spondent subjected Steele to a 2-hour interrogation replete with threats of police involvement and job loss that trained security officers conducted using sophisticated interrogation techniques." In the interview, the Respondent succeeded in obtaining a signed "confession" and Steele's agreement to pay for allegedly stolen items, apparently in exchange for an implied promise to consider letting Steele keep his job. With the "confession" in hand, the Respondent terminated Steele after accepting his payment. Thus, the Respondent blatantly violated the Weingarten protections. THE REMEDY In Taracorp, Inc., 273 NLRB 221 (1984), the Board established the appropriate remedial scheme for violations of Section 8(a)(1) arising out of un- lawful Weingarten interviews. In that decision, the Board held that a make-whole remedy is inappro- priate and that the proper remedy is that normally prescribed for violations of Section 8(a)(1). Ac- cordingly, we shall order the Respondent to cease and desist from the activity found unlawful herein and take certain affirmative actions designed to ef- fectuate the policies of the Act. 9 The Board has held on several occasions that it is not the prerogative of the employer to determine whether an employee needs representation at a Weingarten interview See Lennox Industries, 244 NLRB 607, 608 (1979), and cases cited therein at fn 6 " In his supplemental decision, the judge sought to establish that Steele was not actually coerced during the interview The absence of actual coercion is wholly irrelevant in the context of Weingarten Ac- cordingly, we do not find it necessary to pass on the judge's finding that the interview was noncoercive We do, however, specifically disavow any implication in the supplemental decision that Steele's signing the "Consent to Interview" form waived his Weingarten rights or otherwise indicated that Steele participated in the interview voluntarily See Mont- gomery Ward ii Co , 254 NLRB 826, 831 (1981) 1228 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD ORDER The National Labor Relations Board orders that the Respondent, Montgomery Ward & Company, Incorporated, San Leandro, California, its officers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall 1. Cease and desist from (a) Requiring that employees participate in inter- views or meetings when the employees have rea- sonable grounds to believe that the matters to be discussed may result in their being disciplined and where representation at those interviews or meet- ings has been denied. (b) In any like or related manner interfering with, restraining, or coercing employees in the ex- ercise of the rights guaranteed them by Section 7 of the Act. 2. Take the following affirmative action neces- sary to effectuate the policies of the Act. (a) Post at its San Leandro, California facility copies of the attached notice marked "Appen- dix."" Copies of the notice, on forms provided by the Regional Director for Region 32, after being signed by the Respondent's authorized representa- tive, shall be posted by the Respondent immediate- ly upon receipt and maintained for 60 consecutive days in conspicuous places including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken by the Respondent to ensure that the notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. (b) Notify the Regional Director in writing within 20 days from the date of this Order what steps the Respondent has taken to comply. " If this Order is enforced by a Judgment of a United States Court of Appeals, the words in the notice reading "Posted by Order of the Na- tional Labor Relations Board" shall read "Posted Pursuant to a Judgment of the United States Court of Appeals Enforcing an Order of the Nation- al Labor Relations Board" APPENDIX NOTICE TO EMPLOYEES POSTED BY ORDER OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD An Agency of the United States Government The National Labor Relations Board has found that we violated the National Labor Relations Act and has ordered us to post and abide by this notice. WE WILL NOT require that employees participate in interviews or meetings when the employees have reasonable grounds to believe that the matters to be discussed may result in their being disciplined and where representation at those interviews or meetings has been denied. WE WILL NOT in any like or related manner interfere with, restrain, or coerce employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed them by Section 7 of the Act. MONTGOMERY WARD & COMPANY, INCORPORATED DECISION STATEMENT OF THE CASE DAVID G. HEILBRUN, Administrative Law Judge. This case was heard at Oakland, California, on July 23, 1981, based on a complaint alleging that Montgomery Ward & Company, Incorporated (Respondent) violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act by denying the request of Joseph F. Steele for "the presence of a representative" during an investigatory interview conducted May 23, 1980, as to which there was reasonable cause to believe that discipli- nary action against Steele would result, and thereafter on May 29, 1980, discharging him in consequence. On the entire record, my observation of the only wit- ness called, and consideration of posthearing briefs, I make the following FINDINGS OF FACT AND RESULTANT CONCLUSION OF LAW Steele was employed as a warehousemen by Respond- ent for 11 years, and was a member of the bargaining unit represented by Warehouse, Mail Order and Retail Employees Union, Local No. 853, affiliated with Interna- tional Brotherhood of Teamsters, Chauffeurs, Ware- housemen and Helpers of America.' In late morning of May 23, 1980, his immediate supervisor Joe Beggs ad- vised Steele to go with him to an office about 300 feet or more from his normal work place. 2 During the approxi- mate course of 5 minutes while walking there Steele re- peatedly asked Beggs why he was being brought in and who the "Mr. Sweet" was that he was expected to see. The question was begged off on the basis of Beggs lack- ing helpful knowledge. On arrival at the office Steele was presented to Security and Safety Manager Roger Peterson and Chief Investigator Malvin Lee, the former of whom proceeded to interrogate Steele about ware- house thievery. This followed the initial act of obtaining Steele's signature on a "Consent to Interview" document reading: I agree that representatives at Montgomery Ward & Co., Inc., may interview me, commencing from the 1 Respondent operates retail department stores nationally and in the course and conduct of its business operations derives gross revenues in excess of $500,000 Its office and place of business in San Leandro, Cali- fornia, is the only facility here involved, and as to this location Respond- ent annually purchases and receives goods or services valued in excess of $5000 which originated outside California On these admitted facts I find that Respondent is an employer engaged in commerce within the mean- ing of Sec 2(6) and (7) of the Act, and otherwise that Teamsters Local 853, named more fully above, is a labor organization within the meaning of Sec 2(5) of the Act 2 All dates and named months hereafter are in 1980, unless shown oth- erwise MONTGOMERY WARD & CO. 1229 time designated below [11:37 a.m.] on matters relat- ing to company business. It is fully understood that I am free to leave this interview at any time I so desire. The interview lasted nearly 2 hours with repeated accu- sations of Steele's having stolen things, and his at first resolutely denying it. Ultimately, the merchandise catag- logue was handed to Steele with a request that he leaf through it. He did so and on pausing at certain pages Pe- terson aggressively insinuated that this signified guilt as to items on such a particular page. Slowly, Steele pas- sively conceded that his pauses did not associate to stolen items, though secretly repudiating it in his own mind. A short list of apparel and consumer goods was then prepared with attendant dollar value totaling to $170.66, and Steele signed it below an introductory state- ment admitting to appropriation of what was marked. A second document was signed 15 minutes later in which Steel printed out his supposed actions in more detail, stating remorse and a desire to make restitution. He was thereupon suspended by Peterson and, on return to the premises on May 29, he paid Respondent $170.66 and was promptly terminated on the basis of a management decision which Peterson said was not made by him. Steele testified to various matters that superimpose on this chronolgy. He recalled that when the episode com- menced Peterson elaborated on the "Consent to Inter- view" by saying that it authorized use of a tape recorder which would be Steele's "protection." In fact, the inter- view was not taped. Additionally, Steel twice tried to leave during the interview, but on both occasions was dissuaded when Peterson stated that to do so would lead to police involvement and possible arrest. Steele testified that he thrice asked "to have somebody present at the interview," but this approach was consistently denied by Peterson, who kept alluding to a tape recording as Steele's "protection and my representative." Following his termination Steele caused certain docu- ments to be sent to Respondent. A grievance statement dated June 5 set forth Steele's version of background as including that the interview experience was emotionally distressing to him, and caused him to ask "if I could see one (1) of my work supervisors, to find out what was going on." In a later document dated July 1, rebuttting an employer grievance response, Steele emphasized how he had "asked (more than once) to see one of my super- visors in order to find out what was going on." In this document Steele added that to him his request had meant seeing a "shop steward." Steele's steward then was Glen Erspamer, a person he had helped win office in the Local Union by his vote. Other than this Steele had not participated in union affairs during the 11 years of his membership, nor was he even acquainted with any busi- ness agent. This case invokes NLRB v. J. Weingarten, 420 U.S. 251 (1975). Of its progeny Southwestern Bell Telephone Co., 227 NLRB 1223 (1977), is most nearly in point where an employee request "to have someone there that could explain to me what was happening" evoked a su- pervisory response that "if the Union were called in it would be out of their hands and there would be nothing they could do to protect the employees' jobs." In such context I find from probative evidence that Steele did not make an effective request for. representation within the doctrine or intendment of Weingarten. I believe the testimony of Steele is so unreliable as to be valueless. He carried an unpersuasive demeanor while testifying, and on a more objective basis was evasive and contradictory in what he advanced from the witness stand. His offer- ings may be characterized as "generally confused," a condition expressly noted by the Board in approving re- jection of uncontradicted testimony merely on the basis of 'demeanor observation. Plasterers Local 32 (McCrory & Co.), 223 NLRB 486 (1976). See also Teamsters Local 959 (Northland Maintenance), 248 NLRB 693 (1980). I be- lieve Steele's testimony was utterly contrived, a conclu- sion made even more compelling on noting the admission that he was made aware of entitlement to a vague "someone" at the interview only after it was over when "people came up and told me." The truth about Steele's critical utterances is found ex- clusively in documentation originating from him shortly after the episode. Such nearly contemporaneous writings are properly a source of fact, particularly when oral tes- timony is discreditable and the prior signed or adopted statements containing a substantially different version were made in spontaneity and candor. See Snaider Syrup Corp., 220 NLRB 238 (1975); Cf. Kern's Bakeries, 227 NLRB 1329 (1977). Further, I reject Steele's hyperbo- lized claim of harboring fear and intimidation during the 'interview, noting that no objective showing was made about such being inculcated and that by Steele's own de- scription the "shop steward" routinely intervened during interrogations of employees Miles, Sanders, and Lyons. I thus find Steele's only request for guidance or assist- ance was that Beggs, his "work supervisor," appear and participate in the interview. This specifically contrasts with Southwestern Bell, in which an unartfully voiced re- quest for representation was parried with express super- visory reference to whether it was tactically wise to in- volve "the Union" in an institutional sense. 3 The focus on Beggs meant a sterile request under Weingarten, for its carefully structured precepts contemplate only that pertinent representation by a labor organization or its a The General Counsel argues Anchortank, Inc., 239 NLRB 430 (1978), and Crown Zellerbach, Inc., 239 NLRB 1124 (1978), in asserting that Weingarten rights are to be liberally construed in the "lone employee" sit- uation. Both cases are distinguishable. The context of Anchortank was that material events occurred prior to a union's certification, thus leaving employees without a statutory representative at the significant point in time. This was found not to impair an employee's right to "some measure of protection when faced with a confrontation with the employer which might result in adverse action." Having divined this "primary concern" in Weingarten, the Board held in Anchortank that a valid request in fulfill- ment of Sec. 7 rights could involve either a representative of the union not as yet certified "or simply that of [a] fellow employee." The course of this rationale makes ineffectual. Crown Zellerbach is similarly unavail- ing, for there the issue was simply how to dovetail Weingarten rights with the new representative status of a freshly certified union, as to which the parties had "no customary practice or procedure . . . relating to discipline of employees." In such a case the utilization of a principal advocate for the just-successful union was confirmed, and the General Counsel's rather esoteric argument that the interviewed employee's knowing assent to witnessing by this competent fellow employee of rank- and-file persuasion still failed to fulfill Weingarten was rejected. 1230 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD counterpart might contribute to the fulfillment of rights under Section 7 of the Act. 4 Accordingly, I render a conclusion of law that Respondent has not violated the Act as alleged, and issue the following recommended [Recommended Order for dismissal omitted from pub- lication ] 4 Respondent's decision not to call Peterson as a witness is immaterial when a prima facie case has not been made out Further, my holding makes It unnecessary to reach the alternative theory of waiver which was briefed by both parties This theory associates with use of the Consent to Interview form, a technique also found in Montgomery Ward & Co. 254 NLRB 826 (1981) In view of the immateriality, no treatment is required of Montgomery Ward, supra SUPPLEMENTAL DECISION DAVID G. HEILBRUN, Administrative Law Judge. On December 16, 1982, the Board issued its Order remand- ing this matter "for the purpose of preparing and issuing a Supplemental Decision setting forth findings of fact and resolutions of credibility concerning Respondent's statements including the precise nature of Respondent's denial of Joseph F. Steele's request that his work super- visor be allowed to be present to assist him during the interview of Steele conducted by Respondent on May 23, 1980." The Board pointed to subsumed questions, which it termed "unclear . . . and potentially crucial," of "whether Steele was coerced into continuing with the interview after his request for aid was denied and what response was given to Steele, if any, beyond denial of his request that a work supervisor be present." Methodology used in reaching further determinations pursuant to the Order chiefly includes review and comparison of docu- mentary evidence, further scrutiny of testimony as given by sole witness Steele, and reflection on the demeanor characteristics exhibited as he testified on July 23, 1981, in terms of any overall semblance of plausibility. This ap- proach has, in turn, been associated to the several lines of analysis set forth in the Board's Order. Thus, an inte- gration was formulated to render the new findings of fact and conclusions of law that are now required to sup- port a further recommended Order. In more closely accessing the particulars of Steele's concededly investigatory interview, it is first noteworthy that the grievance letter dated June 5, 1980 (appended to a grievance form dated June 6, 1980), was the first spon- taneous description by Steele of what he had experienced 2 weeks earlier. This letter was the work of an unnamed friend, who exhibited considerable skill in written com- position. On its face the letter is suitably organized, con- tains a thrust beyond merely stating the contractually based grievance, and has an impressive rhetorical quality. It is also true that a detailed version of the investigatory interview is set forth, and Steele both had expressly adopted it at the time and reaffirmed it when he testified. With respect to the questions about which the Board solicits more precise factual findings, the first is whether coercion was present as the investigatory interview un- folded. Here Steele's adopted grievance letter of June 5, 1980, traces his original entry to the room in which the episode occurred and the approximate 1-1/2-hour period to follow. However, it is immediately evident that a de- scription akin to what my first decision termed "hyper- bolized" perceptions is offered as reality of the situation. Thus, this "Grievance Background" commences with a reference to the "confront[ationl" by two or three men; however, Steele's testimony on such points reveals no recollection that Chief Investigator Lee ever spoke at all during the entire interview, and that a third man did not appear until a later point when the merchandise cata- logue was brought into the process. As to taping of the investigatory interview, an evidentiary point that bal- ances Respondent's counsel's stating how "at least a part of the interview" was recorded is Steele's recollection that to his own knowledge the tape recorder was not turned on and operating.1 The continued description is of a flood of accusations2 and Steele's growing distress as he experienced feelings of restriction and fear of police involvement. A further direct reference in the grievance letter of June 5, 1980, is to Steele's spoken request for his work supervisor 3 and the response by the interrogator that he could not see "anyone," with the additional comment that the tape re- corder would serve as his representative Given that Su- pervisor Beggs had civilly escorted Steele to the inter- view room, 4 that Steele could not name a second union steward for his work location, that his signed "response" (dated July 1, 1980) to the Employer's "grievance rebut- tal" alludes to asking for "one of my supervisors . . . more then [sic] once," and that he termed his desire as that of wishing to have the interview process softened with a "friendly face," I find that Steele clearly and re- peatedly termed his request for assistance as to be that of a supervisor and from this Respondent's representatives routinely rejected this as an inappropriate intrusion on the security function by saying that nobody of that ca- pacity was to complicate the interview, and that in a general sense any device that could record and thus per- This assertion is one of several in which Steele's veracity is in doubt, for his investigatory affidavit plainly refers to the tape having been "turned on" 2 The exact reference is to "rapid fire questions from all directions", however, this overwise disturbing scenario is at total odds with Lee's being shown as making no utterances at all and the absence of any refer- ence to remarks by the third unknown person 3 This is the most salient point as to which Steele is discredited, for his contradictory testimony was not satisfactorily explained nor did his de- meanor when denying that a work supervisor had been requested by him display an interest in truth on the point 4 No finding is extant of whether Beggs is a supervisor within the meaning of Sec 2(11) of the Act or, as the Board pointed out could be the case, merely a "regular employee [carrying] such a title " While there is little which is indicative of Beggs' actual functioning, what is known is that as a subordinate Steele was paid an $8 59 hourly rate as a receiving clerk plus generally working 3 hours weekly overtime, that Beggs au- thoritatively left his work area to walk an employee on what amounted to an approximate 10-minute passage of time for his own round trip, and that Steele showed some apprehension over whether or not he was being called in because of "mistakes I may have made as a new employee in the Receiving Department" Such indications are that Beggs actually respon- sibly directed others in a manner more than routine, and requiring use of independent Judgment in such fulfillment The Board's experience with this Employer shows it to be sufficiently structured that, when all in- volved persons allude to a "work supervisor" in this type of facility, the Incumbent is by all odds a statutory supervisor On this basis I now find Beggs to have possessed that status at material times Cf Montgomery Ward & Co, 217 NLRB 165, 166 (1975) MONTGOMERY WARD & CO. 1231 petuate spoken words would be representative of the ex- change then underway and intended to be continued. I find that no coercion was present in regard to Steele's continuation with the interview, in part because at its very outset he signed a statement which plainly af- firmed his understanding of being truly able "to leave . . . at any time." 5 Steele's grievance rebuttal' response dated July 1, 1980, seeks to neutralize the significance of this understanding in its point No. 6; however, none of the five subpoints does more than reiterate what a sum- moned employee would ordinarily expect. On the ques- tion of police involvement, the last assertion of such point No. 6 refers to police notification, but without any showing that it was more than routine reference when- ever theft is the subject matter of discussion. This is an- other example of inconsistency in Steele as a source of facts, for his earlier grievance letter of June 5, 1980, and his investigatory affidavit both state that he was told of potentially being "take[n]" to the police.6 5 An identical "Consent to Interview" document was involved in Montgomery Ward & CO., 254 NLRB 826 (1981), and there analyzed only in terms of whether it constituted a waiver of Weingarten rights. Of three interviewees which that case treated, all of whom signed the writing before individual interview with auto service center secunty and safety personnel, one (Kamin) made no request for representation whatsoever, yet proceeded to list $1303 in cash and merchandise as his response to the management official's request for details of what he was "responsible for stealing." Further, when the process was over and admitted to in a signed statement, the employee implicated another individual on being asked about his knowledge of any additional engagement in theft. The implicated person, along with another, both made clear and unequivocal requests for union representation subsequent to signing the Consents to Interview there, and the coercive circumstances found to have existed during these respective interviews did not in any manner relate to this document Itself. ° Steele's oral testimony varies still more in its reference to "police action and stuff like that," which is the explanation in terms other than his being taken to the police. I note that the final documents signed by Steele when the interview terminated emphasized how "possible prosecu- tion" was not precluded or limited, and believe from this that a definite susceptibility toward suggestiveness has clouded Steele's ability to truly recall just what was said to him on the point. These circumstances em- phatically contrast with a person undergoing interview being told that police would be "waiting [at] home" should he leave, or countering the plain request for a union representative to assist by saying that instead the police would be called. Montgomery Ward, supra at 829-830. In sum, I find that Steele experienced a firm, appropri- ate coaxing out of guilt, that the consequences of his ap- parent conduct were referred to only in a balanced manner, and that his contention after the episode ended that he had really felt rooted in place throughout and unable to exercise the simple free will of walking from the room is but a contrived afterthought which was fos- tered out of an unworthy attempt to avoid the plain con- sequences of his acts. I am satisfied that these disordered thoughts arose later on May 23, 1980, when Steele was visited at home by two fellow employees, and the entire matter of a sweeping security crackdown based on impli- cations the day before was discussed among these three persons in a context laden with surmise, chagrin, and a grasping for exoneration. The Board's remand also alluded to the "legal" issue of Respondent's being put on notice of an employee's desire for representation, with Columbus Foundries, 229 NLRB 34 (1977), and Illinois Bell Telephone Co., 251 NLRB 932 (1980), cited as among the progeny of Wein- garten. In Columbus Foundries the individual seeking to intervene during an investigatory interview was a union committeeman, while in Illinois Bell a fellow employee of the interviewee was turned away even though the actual union steward had instructed that such a person be called on if necessary when, as was the case, there was no access to this same union steward because of differing work shifts. On these bases I consider both Columbus Foundries and Illinois Bell distinguishable and without relevance to the issue of what puts an employer on meaningful notice that appropriate representation is de- sired before an employee submits to an investigatory interview. With the facts here being that Steele's only re- quest was for a work supervisor, the fuller credibility resolution above has no impact on such collateral "legal" issue. Accordingly, I reaffirm my earlier conclusion of law that Respondent has not violated the Act as alleged, and again recommend that the Board dismiss the complaint in its entirety. Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation