Detroit Edison Co.Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsJun 20, 194774 N.L.R.B. 267 (N.L.R.B. 1947) Copy Citation In the Matter of DETROIT EDISON COMPANY and UTILITY WORKERS UNION OF AMERICA, CIO, LOCAL 223 1 Case No. 7-C-1380.-Decided June 20, 1947 Mr. Max Rotenberg, for the Board. Fischer, Brown, Sprague, Franklin d Ford, of Detroit, Mich., by /Messrs. Harvey A. Fischer and Leon Jones, for the respondent. Mr. Irwin J. Kasofj', of Detroit, Mich., and Mr. Herman E. Cooper, by Mr. Ostrin, of New York City, for the CIO. Mrs. Patricia Bromberg, of Detroit, Mich., for the Association. Miss Grace McEldowney, of counsel to the Board. DECISION AND ORDER On July 16, 1946, Trial Examiner Charles E. Persons issued his Intermediate Report in the above-entitled proceeding, finding that the respondent had not engaged in the unfair labor practices alleged in the complaint, and recommending that the complaint be dismissed in its entirety, as set forth in the copy of the Intermediate Report at- tached hereto. Thereafter, the CIO and counsel for the Board filed exceptions to the Intermediate Report; the CIO filed a brief in support of its exceptions ; and the respondent filed a brief in support of the Intermediate Report and, subsequently, a brief in reply to the brief of the CIO. On April 15, 1947, a hearing for the purpose of oral argu- ment was held before the Board in Washington, D. C., in which the respondent, the CIO, and the Association participated. The Board has considered the rulings made by the Trial Examiner qt the hearing and finds that no prejudicial error was committed. The rulings are hereby affirmed. The Board has considered the Inter- mediate Report, the exceptions and briefs filed by the parties, and the entire record in the case, and hereby adopts the findings, conclusions, and recommendations of the Trial Examiner only to the extent that they are consistent with the findings, conclusions, and order set forth below. 1 Until October 1945 this Union was known as Utility Workers Organizing Committee affiliated with the Congress of Industrial Organizations , herein called U W 0 C 74 N. L . R. B., No. 49. 267 268 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Chairman Herzog and Mr. Houston do not agree with the Trial Examiner's conclusion that the respondent has not dominated or inter- fered with the formation or administration of the Association, or contributed support to it, as alleged in the complaint. The Chairman, however, does not share Mr. Houston's view that, on this record, the Association should be disestablished. (See Remedy below.) The facts regarding the Association and its predecessor, the Club, are as follows : Early in 1941, a group of non-supervisory employees of the Cus- tomers Service Division of the respondent's Sales Department con- ceived the idea of forming a social club in their division, similar to other clubs among the respondent's employees. Assistant Foreman Lawrence Van Tremper, whom they consulted about the matter, ar- ranged for them to meet with H. R. Stevenson, assistant superintendent of the Division. Stevenson approved the idea and encouraged them to proceed with their plans; and at his suggestion, they used the re- spondent's telephone to inform other employees of the Division of the proposed club and to calla meeting for May 13,1941. At the meeting on May 13, at which no supervisors were present, the employees voted by a large majority to organize; and at a second meeting, held on May 20, 1941, after hearing reports of committees which had been appointed to investigate the benefits of affiliation with the AFL, the Linkage Club (a social club in the respondent's Sub-Station Department), and the Michigan Bell Telephone Association (an unaffiliated labor or- ganization of employees of another company), they voted to form "an organization within the Company." At a third meeting, held on June 4, 1941, Articles of Association and Bylaws were adopted. In June 1942, these Articles were amended in minor respects; and in August 1942, the Customers Service Division Club was incorporated under the laws of the State of Michigan. As recited in the Articles of Association, the original objectives of the Club were purely social. The only membership requirement was continuous employment by the Division for a period of not less than 6 months. Supervision of the affairs of the organization was vested in a Board of Control, composed of representatives elected by the mem- bers, and a president, vice president, and secretary-treasurer chosen from that Board. Supervisors were eligible to join the Club, and the majority of them did so; but they were not eligible to hold any elective office. The Bylaws provided for annual meetings of the membership, and for special meetings to be called whenever the president or Board of Control considered them expedient, or when 10 members filed a written request therefor. DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 269 Until May 1944, when the Club was reorganized, as discussed below, all meetings of the Club and of the Board of Control were held on company premises; minutes of the meetings at which officers were elected were sent to the respondent; and voting for representatives and on Club questions was conducted openly during working hours through ballot boxes placed on company premises. Like other social organiza- tions, the Club was permitted to make free use of the respondent's bulletin boards and inter-office telephone and mailing systems; address- ograph plates were prepared for it by the respondent; and one of the respondent's employees performed stenographic and clerical services for its secretary during working hours. Before the annual member- ship meetings in 1943 and 1944, E. J. Stouffer, superintendent of the Customers Service Division, entertained the members as his guests at dinner, and on another occasion paid for a supper for the women members. Although the activities of the Club were originally social it did not long restrict itself to social activities. The Board of Control was called upon to take action on complaints of the members about working conditions; and at a special meeting of the Club on August 7, 1942, a letter from Superintendent Stouffer was read in which he stated that, "If at any time your Board of Governors wishes to discuss any personal or Company matters with any Company official, we should be glad to have you do so." Thereafter, on at least three occasions the Board of Control met with representatives of management to discuss grievances, wages, or working conditions.' Thus, on August 20, 1942, pursuant to instructions received from the membership at the August 7 meeting, the Board of Control had a conference with officials of the respondent, at which it presented a request for a 15 percent raise for employees in the Customers Service Division. No decision on the matter was reached at that time, but at a subsequent meeting between the parties, held on September 9, 1942, the respondent stated that a raise of 5 cents an hour, retroactive to August 31, would b^ given to the hourly paid men, and approximately equivalent increases were promised for the salaried and office employees. Again, on April 29, 1943, the Board of Control met with Superintendent Stouffer and discussed various working conditions, including the 48 hour week, seniority, dispatching field workers on unusual assignments, etc.; and on August 17, 1943, it presented a grievance to him on behalf of employee Kunart, which was amicably settled. In addition, on several occasions Stouffer addressed the Club membership on matters relating to working conditions. At the special meeting of the Club on August 7, 1942, referred to above, the advantages and disadvantages of union affiliation were dis- 270 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD cussed, a fact which further indicates that the Club membership re- garded its functions as not merely social. Following the discussion, the members gave a vote of confidence in the Club. Thereafter, from time to time, revision of the Club's constitution was considered. At some time not definitely set by the record, but before February 1944, A. C. Runge, the Club's president, went to Superintendent Stouffer and "inquired about the Club changing to an Association." Stouffer arranged a conference with P. J. Savage, one of the respondent's vice presidents, and Runge told Savage that the Club "was desirous of forming an association for bargaining purposes on working conditions and wage rates, and wanted to know if the Company would recognize this group as such." Savage replied "that they would have to go through the regular channels of securing certification from [the Board] before the Company would recognize them as a bargaining unit." On March 7, 1944, the Board of Control adopted a motion that a committee be appointed to revise the Club's Articles of Association and Bylaws "for the purpose of providing an organization through which the members may select representatives of their own choosing to negotiate and bargain collectively with the management of the [respondent] in respect to rates of pay, wages, hours of employment or other conditions of employment," and "to provide an organization for the employees of the [respondent] that is controlled by said em- ployees through membership in this organization." A new constitu- tion, embodying these provisions and changing the name of the or- ganization from Customers Service Division Club to Detroit Edison Employees Association, was accordingly prepared. After being ap- proved by the Board of Control, the constitution was submitted to the membership of the Club for a vote on or about April 27, 1944. Prior to the election, held on company property on April 17, 1944, a bulletin was mailed to all Club members informing them of the com- ing election. It stated that the employees might soon be compelled to select a bargaining agent, and that the purpose of the proposed changes in the constitution was to provide them with a choice between an independent union and an outside union ; it listed the advantages of having an independent union and accordingly urged approval of the proposed changes. Ballot boxes were maintained for several days in the plants and offices, and employees frequently voted on company time during the election. The changes were adopted by a large ma- jority. On May 4, 1944, J. C. Currell, who had been elected president of the Club in February 1944, wrote to Superintendent Stouffer, notifying him of the Club's action; and on June 29, 1944, Currell and John J. McCluskey, as president and secretary of the Club, filed ,with the Michigan Corporation and Securities Commission a Certificate of DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 271 Amendment to the Articles of Incorporation of the Club, signed by the original incorporators , which set forth the new name and new purposes of the organization. Both the letter to Stouffer and the Certificate of Amendment stated that the changes were effective as of May 1, 1944. Under the new constitution, the Association, unlike the Club, was authorized to admit members on a company-wide basis. Supervisors were excluded from membership, but all other employees who had been in the respondent's employ for 6 months were eligible to join. The managing board, still known as the Board of Control, was made up of representatives from each of nine divisions into which the mem- bers were grouped; and each of these divisions, which corresponded in general with the principal departments of the respondent's organiza- tional plan, had, in addition, a division committee composed of elected representatives. The Association recognized all liabilities of the Club and took over its bank account and personal property , and the officers of the Club continued as officers of the Association until new elections were held on June 30, 1944, when Currell was again elected president. Early in May 1944, however, the Association rented space in an office building and secured a telephone; although one meeting of the Board of Con- trol, on May 10, was held in the respondent's General Office Building, all Association meetings thereafter were held off the respondent's premises. On May 19, 1944 , the respondent issued a memorandum to its officers and employees regarding the use of its facilities and services by em- ployee groups, clubs, and associations. This memorandum made no mention of the Club or the Association, but stated.that some question had arisen as to whether the respondent's practice of supplying em- ployee groups, organized as clubs, associations, and technical societies, with facilities reasonable to their use and need, should be extended to groups of employees wishing to meet to discuss or act among themselves upon matters incident to collective bargaining, and that it was the respondent's belief that decisions as to the appropriateness of holding such meetings on company property might, in some cases, unintention- ally lead to lack of impartial treatment as between groups. After further stating that it was the respondent's intent that there should be entire equality of treatment of employee groups engaged in collective bargaining activities, and that it had no desire to influence the choice of employees in the matter of representation or non-representation for collective bargaining or as to any particular agent or form of agency to be used, the memorandum concluded by saying that "no use of the respondent's premises shall be approved for the purpose of effecting 755420-48-vol 74-19 272 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD organization for collective bargaining , union business meetings, or other related activities ," and that printing , publication , and similar services in connection with such activities would not be permitted. It added, however , that this policy did not prohibit the granting of a reasonable use of bulletin boards "for the posting of notices involving no controversial matter, as for instance meeting notices," and stated that "such privileges have already been extended to all organizations." It further said that permission might also be given , upon application, to any employee or group, when reasonable or appropriate , to use the respondent 's property , facilities , or services for such purposes as were purely educational , recreational , charitable , or social . There is no substantial evidence that after the issuance of this memorandum the Association was permitted to make any use of the respondent 's property or facilities , with the possible exception of bulletin boards. The Association did not immediately seek formal recognition as the, bargaining representative of any of the respondent's employees. Some- time in June 1944 , however, a committee appointed by Currell, con- sisting of employees Gerry B. Stitt, Duncan Preston , and John Mast, went to S.uperintenclent Stouffer to protest , on behalf of the Association, a proposed change in the rate of compensation paid by the respondent to employees who used their own automobiles in connection with their work. Stouffer told them that he could do nothing for them "because [the Association] had no right to bargain ," but added that if they came as employees of the Division , he would arrange a meeting with A. P. McLay, one of the respondent's vice presidents and sales manager. Shortly thereafter , the respondent received a letter signed "Committee on Automobile Rental Control , Customers Service Division ," stating that the committee had been appointed to enter into discussion of the proposed automobile mileage contract rate. The respondent 's reply, as well as further communications on the same subject , was addressed to Stitt, Preston , and Mast as members of this committee rather than as a committee from the Association . On June 26, 1944 , representa- tives of the respondent met with a group of employees of the Customers Service Division , including the committee, the full Board of Control of the Association , and at least one employee who was not a member of the Association , to discuss the points raised in the committee 's letter. At this meeting, it was agreed that there would be no change in the car rental rates pending a decision by the War Labor Board as to whether the proposed changes came within its jurisdiction . Although the War Labor Board subsequently held that its approval of the new contracts was not required , the respondent , on December 18, 1941, issued a notice to all employee owners of automobiles in company service , only a small proportion of whom were employees of the Customers Service Division, DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 273 stating that , with minor exceptions , the car rental contracts in effect on November 26, 1944 , would be continued "until governmental restric- tions on Company mileage are substantially removed." On October 13, 1944, Currell , as president of the Association, wrote to the respondent claiming that the Association had a majority in the Customers Service Division and in the Eastern Michigan Division and requesting recognition as exclusive bargaining agent for certain desig- nated classifications of employees in those Divisions . Vice President Savage replied , on October 16, 1944, questioning the appropriateness. of the proposed unit and suggesting that the matter be submitted to, the Regional Office of this Board "for a determination as to whether or not the suggested unit is a proper one for collective bargaining and for the holding of an election to determine whether or not the em- ployees of the ultimately approved unit desire your organization as their exclusive representative ." There is no evidence that since that time the respondent has dealt in any way with the Association. Upon the above facts, regarding which there is no substantial dis- pute, it is clear that the respondent approved , encouraged , and assisted the formation of the Club , and, during its existence under that name, subsidized dinners for its members , and permitted it to make use of the respondent 's meeting places, bulletin boards, telephone , mail, and stenographic facilities, and to conduct its elections on company time and property . We are of the opinion, and we find, that by this con- duct, the respondent dominated and interfered with the formation and administration of the Club , and contributed financial and other support to it, in violation of Section 8 (2) of the Act. The respondent admits that it encouraged and assisted the Cluu as it did other similar organizations of its employees , but contends that its conduct was not illegal because the Club was merely a social organization . We find no merit in this contention, because the Club became a labor organization in 1942. It is true that the Act does not prohibit assistance on the part of an employer to social organiza- tions , but only to labor organizations . However, the Act defines a labor organization as "any organization of any kind in which em- ployees participate and which exists for the purpose , in whole br in part, of dealing with employers concerning grievances , labor disputes, wages, rates of pay, hours of employment , or conditions of work." (Emphasis supplied. ) The Club's activities on and after August 20, 1942, in seeking and procuring an increase in pay, in presenting a grievance on behalf of employee Kunart, and in discussing working conditions with management, as related above, clearly brought it within the scope of this definition. The respondent both invited, and knowingly and willingly engaged in , dealing with the Club con- 274 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD cerning wages, grievances, and working condition's 2 We do not view these events as isolated or of no importance. Like the 'Trial Ex- aminer, but unlike Mr. Reynolds, we find that, although the original purposes of the Club were charitable, social, athletic, educational, and recreational, and although the major part of its finances and of the activities of its officials and members were expended on these mat- ters, it was nevertheless a labor organization, within the meaning of the Act. The Trial Examiner likewise found that the Club was a labor or- ganization, but concluded that the assistance given it by the respond- ent was not illegal because it was given with intent to aid a social organization, and not to affect its activities as a labor organization. We do not agree. Section 8 (2) of the Act defines the unfair labor practice in terms of the fact of an employer's domination of, inter- ference with, or support of a labor organization, not in terms of the employer's intent, or purpose in extending support, or the measured effect of such support. Moreover, it is clear that to adopt the prin- ciple that an employer's domination of, interference with,, and sup- port of a labor organization do not fall within the proscription of the Act unless there is specific intent to affect its labor activities would make impossible the accomplishment of the objective of Section 8 (2) of the Act to keep the arena of employee self-organization free from the effects of any interference with or support of a labor organization by an employer. Such a principle would mean that an employer could, with impunity, lend his unrestricted support to the social activities of a labor organization, although the existence of such sup- port might be determinative in enabling it to achieve majority status and the right to represent the employees for the purposes of collective bargaining in competition with other labor organizations. Accord- ingly, even if it be assumed, arguendo, that the respondent's intent was merely to aid the Club in its social activities, this cannot alter the fact that the respondent's conduct in interfering with the formation and administration of the Club, and giving it financial and other support, was violative of Section 8 (2) of the Act. The question remains whether the Association carries with it the same legal taint and infirmity which attached to the Club, or whether the Trial Examiner correctly found it to be "an untrammeled and free 2 Whether or not the respondent actually bargained with the Club on these matters, as contrasted with receiving and adjusting grievances presented by the Club, is immaterial on the question of whether it was a labor organization. See Matter of The Tappan Stove Company, 66 N. L. R B. 759 , and cases cited therein Accordingly , since the facts are not entirely clear as to the precise character of the dealings, we make no finding as to whether these dealings constituted collective bargaining or merely, as the respondent con- tends, and as the Trial Examiner has found , the presentation and disposition of grievances. In either event, the respondent dealt with the Club as a labor organization. DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 275 bargaining agent . . . not disqualified as a statutory representa- tive of respondent's employees by the circumstances disclosed as to its origin, its activities, nor by any proven relationship with the respon- dent." As noted above, effective May 1, 1944, the Club reorganized as a formal labor organization under the name of the Association. Thereafter, the Association discontinued its use of the respondent's meeting places and facilities, and the respondent gave it no further substantial support and refused to recognize it as the bargaining repre- sentative of any of its employees unless certified as such by the Board. The respondent therefore contends that it cannot be held to have domi- nated or interfered with the formation or administration of the Asso- ciation, or contributed support to it, in violation of Section 8 (2) of the Act. The Trial Examiner has found that the Association was merely a successor to the' Club, and that, despite the absence of any "line of fracture" between the two, the Association was "a labor organization arising after full and free discussion among the employees." It could as easily be said, however, that the Association is really the same or- ganization as the Club, the members of the latter having proceeded, by way of amendment of the articles of association and corporate charter, to change its name and to clothe it with all the powers of a full-fledged labor organization. If, as we have found, the organization was un- lawfully supported by the respondent in violation of Section 8 (2) of the Act while it bore the name "Club," simply changing its name, broadening its authority, withdrawing further support and withhold- ing recognition from it, could not, in and of themselves, automatically operate to extinguish the violation.3 The respondent failed to take all the steps whereby the effects of its unlawful support of the Club might have been completely dissipated and the employees enabled to exercise their full freedom of self- organization in forming the Association. The Board has frequently held that where a labor organization evolves out of an organization dominated and supported by an employer, the new organization is likely to suffer from the same infirmities as the old unless the employer, prior to its formation, has unequivocally, explicitly, and publicly dis- avowed and disestablished the original illegal organization and has given adequate assurances directly to the employees of their freedom from further interference in choosing their representatives.4 In the present case, the respondent took no such action, one fact which induces a majority of the Board to hold that the violation of Section 8 (2) 3Cf N. L. R. B. v. Southern Bell Telephone and Telegraph Co, 319 U. S 50. See, for example : N. L. R. B. v. Southern Bell Telephone and Telegraph Co., 319 U. S. 50; Westinghouse Electric & Mfg . Co. v. N. L. R. B., 112 F. (2d) 657 (C. C. A. 2), affirmed per curiam , 312 U. S. 660. 276 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARII continued into 1944.5 Although the respondent had previously dealt with the Club as a labor organization, it did not withdraw its support until after its formal reorganization into the Association. The re- spondent permitted the balloting whereby the Club was reorganized as the Association to be conducted as usual on company time and prop- erty, thereby assisting the transformation and giving the employees some reason to believe that it approved the proposed revision. The Company's memorandum of May 19, 1944, which stated its pol- icy in regard to the use of its premises by labor organizations, and pur- ported to state its neutrality as to such organizations, also was insuffi- cient to establish a complete line of fracture between an unlawful predecessor and a truly independent successor organization. The memorandum not only failed to mention either the Club or the Asso- ciation, but was issued 3 weeks after the transformation of the Club into the Association. By that time much of the damage could have been done. The record also contains some evidence of disparate treatment of the Association and the C. I. 0. Although it is not great in amount, and reliance on it is not necessary for the conclusion we reach, the disparity was sufficient in the light of the background to give the employees fur- ther reason to believe that the Association was the organization ap- proved and preferred by the respondent. The memorandum of May 19, 1944, recited, as one exception to the prohibition against the use of company premises or facilities by labor organizations, that all organi- zations might have "reasonable use of bulletin boards for the posting of notices involving no controversial matter, as for instance meeting notices." [Italics supplied.] Despite this announced policy, the pres- ident of the C. I. 0. and employee Wilkinson were both denied per- mission by the respondent's union relations adviser and other super- visors to post C. I. 0. meeting notices on the bulletin boards in May 1944, although the Association was permitted to post notices thereon.6 b The failure of the respondent to take the affirmative steps required to make the fracture complete, while tending to prove the violation , does not-in the Chairman's opinion- necessarily mean that the Board should apply the strongest remedy available under such circumstances ° The record also contains some minor evidence of the respondent 's preference for the Association - employee Stanton testified without denial that he was solicited to join the Association by an organizer in a conversation which took place as they stood only 5 feet from Foreman Martin 's desk , in which the organizer told him. "You'll be forced to loin" the Association , and that Foreman Martin , who had been one of the supervisory employee members of the Club , did not interfere On the other hand , employee Kernan was cautioned by Supervisor Smith not to discuss the C. I. 0 . over the telephone on company time or prop- erty. He likewise told her she had been making a lot of mistakes in her work and asked if her union affiliation was interfering with it; when she asked what the mislakes were, he was unable to point out any to her. Preference for the Association was also voiced in the speech of Ronald B Greene, the respondents ' construction engineer , to one group of employees He addressed the Construc- tion Engineering Department in February 1945, when the C I. 0 was attempting to organ- DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 277 The Chairman and Mr. Houston are of the opinion, and find, that the respondent dominated and interfered with the formation and ad- ministration of the Association and contributed support to it, in vio- lation of Section 8 (2) of the Act,7 and thereby interfered with, restrained, and coerced its employees in the exercise of the rights guar- anteed in Section 7 of the Act. THE EFFECT OF THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES UPON COMMERCE The activities of the respondent set forth above, occurring in con- nection with the operations of the respondent described in Section I of the Intermediate Report, have a close, intimate, and substantial relation to trade, traffic, and commerce among the several States and tend to lead to labor disputes burdening and obstructing commerce and the free flow of commerce. THE REMEDY Normally, in cases in which an employer has unlawfully domi- nated, interfered with, and supported a labor organization, we have ordered it to withdraw or withhold recognition from, and also com- pletely to disestablish, such organization as the representative of any of its employees. Mr. Houston, who agrees with the Chairman in finding that the respondent herein originally dominated, interfered with, and contributed support to the Association, would issue such an order in this case. On this record taken as a whole, however, Chairman Herzog believes that complete disestablishment of the Association is not necessary to preserve for the employees that free- ize that department . In this speech , Greene admittedly expressed opposition to union organization as tending to create a barrier between management and employees ; informed these employees that, if they did not wish to retain individual bargaining , they had a choice between a national union , such as the C I . 0 and A. F. of L , the Association , or an inde- pendent draftsmen 's union , and stated that in choosing among them they should consider whether they would be associating with "their own kind of people " In addition , according to employee William K Wilkinson's uncontiadicted testimony, Greene said that the C I O. officers did not have the same education or were not the same kind of people as the employ- ees in their Division , and that the Association could keep them "with their own kind " We believe, howevei, that in its dealing with the Committee on Automobile Rental Con- trol, the respondent was careful to avoid giving the impression of bargaining with the Association , and that that incident cannot be considered as recognition or support of the Association. T The Trial Examiner, in finding that the Association was not company-dominated, relied in part upon evidence that another organization of the respondent 's employees , the Cus- toaners Accounts Employees Association, ouginated as a social club, later became a labor organization , and was subsequently found, on the basis of a Board -conducted consent elec- tion, to be the exclusive representative of employees in one of the respondent's divisions. Since no 8 ( 2) charges have ever been filed with respect to that organization , the question of whether it is a company -dominated organization has never been litigated or decided, and the action of the Board ' s agents with respect to it is in no way determinative of the issue in this case . See Matter of Pacific Manxfoldtng Company, Inc ,,- 64 N. L. R. B. 1257, 1274- 1275 , and cases cited therein. 278 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR' RELATIONS BOAR]) dom to choose their bargaining representatives that is contemplated by the Act. To that extent the Chairman concurs with Mr. Rey- nolds, although he cannot accept his colleague 's view that Section 8 ( 2) was not violated at one time by this respondent. Our finding that the respondent has dominated , interfered with, and supported the Association is based primarily on the fact that, because of the circumstances under which it came into existence in 1944, the Association could not originally have appeared otherwise than as company -dominated in the minds of the employees. Im- mediately thereafter , however, it took concrete steps to divest itself of the indicia of company domination and support . At the same time the respondent announced its neutrality in matters relating to col- lective bargaining and its intention of withdrawing the use of its premises and facilities for organizational activities, although it did not comply with all the requirements imposed in some of the "frac- ture" cases . Whatever assistance has been given to the Association in the intervening three years has been insubstantial . There is no evidence that the respondent has ever recognized or dealt with the Association , as such, as the representative of any of its employees. On the contrary , when the Association requested recognition as the representative of employees in two divisions , the respondent imme- diately suggested that the matter be referred to the Board, and de- clined to grant any recognition . This may not be controlling, but on this record it is some evidence of this respondent 's good faith. Under these circumstances , and in view of the further fact that the record shows that during the period of the Association 's existence, as well as for many years previously , this respondent has recognized and dealt with nationally affiliated unions, including the charging union, as representatives of employees in some of its divisions , Chair- man Herzog believes that the effects of this respondent 's unfair labor practices have to a large extent been dissipated , and that, on this record, the requisite freedom of self-organization of the employees may be fully restored by posting an appropriate notice for 60 days, without complete disestablishment of the Association . The re- spondent should also be directed to continue to withhold recognition from the Association, or any successor thereto, unless and until certi- fied by us. Since Mr. Houston agrees with the Chairman to this extent, although he would enlarge the order to require complete dis- establishment, it will be so ordered. We will also direct the re- spondent to cease and desist hereafter from engaging in the unfair labor practices found. The disestablishment of a labor organization is a drastic remedy which , in Chairman Herzog's opinion, has been employed with in- DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 279 sufficient discrimination in recent years.8 We ought, hereafter, to manifest fuller appreciation of the factual differences between cases. Whatever reasons may once have existed for directing disestablish- ment in every case in which a violation of Section 8 (2) was found, the Chairman doubts whether that remedy is invariably necessary today in order to effectuate the policies of the Act. This is 1947, not 1935; in the interim employees have learned much about protecting their own rights and making their own choices with the full facts be= fore them. There are situations in which, because of the passage of time, or the intervening attitude of an employer, or both, it would appear unrealistic to assume that employees' free choice is inhibited solely because an unaffiliated organization to which many belong had an illicit beginning.9 It seems to the Chairman that the Board, in fixing the appropriate remedy, has tended to apply the "fracture theory" too rigidly to all situations. Under Section 10 (c) of the Act, remedy lies within our reasonable discretion.Y° That discretion should be exercised reason- ably. The Board should hesitate to destroy a labor organization that appears to have liberated itself from employer influence for more than 3 years, merely because a particular ritual proclaimed in the fracture cases has not been fully complied with 11 There must be a locus penitentiae in all such situations. The Chairman believes that this employer's recent conduct indicates that it has now reached that place of penitence. Its employees should themselves be permitted, after the facts have come to their attention through our order and notices posted for a reasonable period, to decide whether the Association is fit to be their representative. The leading Court cases upholding Board orders of disestablish- ment 12 do not require that the Board employ that extreme remedy in every situation in which an organization formed in violation of Section 8 (2) remains, in ghostly aspect, on the scene. They merely hold that the Board has the power to take that step if it believes that that "may be the only way of wiping the slate clean." 13 Often that power must B This view looks to the future, and is not to be construed as a suggestion that cases already decided should be reconsidered. 6 Ezekiel 18 . 2-3. 11 See opinion of the Chairman in the first Thompson Products case, 70 N L.R. B. 13, at 16 ff. 11 The ritual is normally that described in the sentence preceding footnote 3, supra. 12 See N. L. R B. V. Southern Bell Telephone and Telegraph Co, 319 U. S. 50, Westing- house Electric & Mfg Co. v. N L. R. B., 122 F. (2d) 657 (C C. A. 2), affirmed per curiam, 312 U S 660 ; N. L. R. B. v. Link-Belt Co, 311 U S. 584; Newport News Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Co. v. N. L R. B., 308 U. S. 241, N L. It. B. v. Falk Corporation, 308 U S 453, N L it. B. v. Pacific Greyhound Lines, Inc, 303 U. S. 272, N. L. R B. v. Pennsylvania Greyhound Lines, Inc, 303 U. S. 261; Western Electric Co. v. N. L. R. B., 147 F. (2d) 519 (C. C A. 4), cert. den 324 U S 870. 13 Newport News Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Co . v. N. L. R. B., 308 U S. 241, 250 280 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD be fully exercised. But if we find that there are other ways, we heed not take the ultimate step. Wise governance is that which hesitates to use all the power at its command. ORDER Upon the entire record in the case, and pursuant to Section 10 (c) of the National Labor Relations Act, the National Labor Relations Board hereby orders that the respondent, Detroit Edison Company, Detroit, Michigan, and its officers, agents, successors, and assigns shall : 1. Cease and desist from dominating or interfering with the ad- ministration of Detroit Edison Employees Association, or the forma- tion or administration of any other labor organization of its employees, and from contributing support to Detroit Edison Employees Asso- ciation or to any other labor organization of its employees. 2, Take the following affirmative action, which the Board finds will effectuate the policies of the Act : (a) Withhold all recognition from Detroit Edison Employees As- sociation, or any successor thereto, as the representative of any of its employees for the purpose of dealing with the respondent concerning grievances, labor disputes, wages, rates of pay, hours of employment, or other conditions of employment, unless and until said organization shall have been certified'by the Board as such representative. (b) Post at its offices, buildings, plants, and other places of em- ployment, copies of the notice attached hereto, marked "Appendix A." 14 Copies of said notice, to be furnished by the Regional Director for the Seventh Region, shall, after being duly signed by the respond- ent's representative, be posted by the respondent immediately upon receipt thereof, and maintained by it for sixty (60) consecutive days thereafter, in conspicuous places, including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken by the respondent to insure that said notices are not altered, defaced,. or covered by any other material; (c) Notify the Regional Director for the Seventh Region in writ- ing, within ten (10) days from the date of this Order, what steps the respondent has taken to comply herewith. AND IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the complaint, insofar as it alleges that the respondent, by its officers, agents, and supervisory employees, has engaged in a continuous course of interference, restraint, and co- ercion of its employees in the exercise of their rights to self-organiza- 14 In the event that this order is enforced by decree of a Circuit Court of Appeals, there shall be inserted before the words, "A DECISION AND ORDER," the surds, "Decree of the United States Circuit Court of Appeals enforcing." DETROIT EDISON CO\IPAN Y 281 tion, to form, join, or assist labor organizations; to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in con- certed activities for the purpose of collective bargaining and for other mutual aid or protection, be, and it hereby is, dismissed. APPENDIX A NOTICE TO ALL EMPLOYEES Pursuant to a Decision and Order, of the National Labor Relations Board, and in order to effectuate the policies of the National Labor Relations Act, we hereby notify our employees that : We will not dominate or interfere with the formation or ad- ministration of any labor organization or contribute financial or other support to it. We will not recognize Detroit Edison Employees Association or any successor thereto as the representative of any of our em- ployees for the purpose of dealing with us concerning grievances, labor disputes, wages, rates of pay, hours of employment, or other conditions of employment, unless and until said organiza- tion shall have been certified by the Board as such representative. DETROIT EDIsoN COMPANY, Employer. Dated---------------------- By ---------------------- ------ (Representative ) (Title) This notice must remain posted for 60 days from the date hereof, and must not be altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. MR. JOHN M. HOUSTON, dissenting in part : I am unable to join with Chairman Herzog in his refusal to dis- establish the Association, because I am convinced that the sole method by which the Board can make available to these employees their rights guaranteed by the Act is to remove any possibility that the Association might become the exclusive bargaining representative for them. Such a possibility is inherent in the proposal made by the Chairman that the respondent merely refuse to grant recognition to the Association until it is certified by the Board.'' Such an order in no way dissipates the effect of long domination and support which has rendered the Association incapable of dealing at arms length with the employer of its membership, and its places the Association in a position to com- pete for representative status although it has been condemned by this ' A course of conduct, incidentally, which the respondent has been careful to observe. The Chauman, in effect, appears to order the respondent to continue what it has been doing, although he has found that its conduct is illegal. 282 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD decision as an organization which exists in violation of the Act. This is so because the order contemplates that an election will be held in which the Association will be afforded a place on the ballot and, if it is successful, will receive legal status to act as exclusive representa- tive by our certification. Nothing seems more futile than to hold the Association an illegal organization, and, at the same time, to extend to it the opportunity of serving further as the legal representative of these employees. The Chairman advocates that the Board not be rigid in the exercise of its discretion under Section 10 (c) of the Act. He argues that it should take cognizance of facts, which in this case, he finds sufficient to call for a relaxation of the use of the customary disestablishment order. I can find no valid reason in any of the considerations which apparently motivate him, to warrant a deviation in the manner sug- gested by his opinion. He adverts primarily to the fact that the re- spondent has withheld recognition from the Association as indicating that the employees are now free from the effect of the earlier domina- tion. This circumstance has no real significance. In weighing the type of remedy which should be employed in cases of this type, the Board in the Southern Bell Telephone and Telegraph Company case, reported in 319 U. S. 50, held, and was supported by the Supreme Court, that even where a poll had been taken at which the dominated organization was chosen overwhelmingly, no sufficient cause was thereby disclosed so as to justify a lesser remedy than full disestab- lishment. In the light of this explicit approval by the Supreme Court, I find it difficult to accept the withholding of recognition by the re- spondent as establishing any real ground for discarding the normal remedy in this case. The argument that during the last few years there has been an ab- sence of evidence of continued domination and support, does not jus- tify the Chairman's unwillingness to disestablish the Association. All this proves is that the passive existence of an illegal relationship has made impossible the institution of true collective bargaining. It does not prove that these employees have been disabused of the effects of the respondent's interference with the Association. Obviously the respondent would be content to cease its active interference if, as is now made possible, the Board might certify the Association as legiti- mate. Of similar insubstantial effect is the notion that the respondent has made it possible for its employees to bargain freely by dealing with non-dominated or affiliated labor organizations. Aside from the fact that evidence of Such dealing would be irrelevant to the issues presented in this case, it proves only that the respondent may have found it convenient or necessary to do so. It seems to me that the DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 283 salutary and safe practice of dealing with non-dominated organiza- tions should not relieve an employer of the consequences of illegal con- duct with respect to another and dominated organization. Conse- quently, I consider the elements on which the Chairman relies to be of such vague materiality as to provide no persuasive basis for aban- doning a precedent which history has proved sound. In principle, I am inclined to agree that the Board's discretionary power should not be used to its fullest limits in every case if real equi- ties appear to warrant relaxation. A contrary policy could properly be condemned as mechanistic and arbitrary. At the same time, how- ever, I insist that when use of our full power is the only real way we have to achieve fundamental objectives of the Act, we should not hesi- tate to do so. MR. JAMES J. REYNOLDS, JR., dissenting : While I fully approve of the policy of this Board which seeks dili- gently to protect employees against employer domination of or inter- ference with any labor organization purporting to represent such em- ployees, I cannot agree that the facts in this case warrant the conclu- sion that respondent has committed any acts or engaged in a course of conduct impairing the rights of employees as guaranteed by the Act. To the contrary, it seems to me that the Board's Order is itself an unwarranted invasion of the rights of these employees. The respondent employs approximately 7500 workers. The Board's records disclose that, prior to the filing of the complaint herein, no previous complaint that the respondent has engaged in unfair labor practices has ever been issued by this Board. For more than 30 years the respondent has bargained with the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers with respect to some of its workers. The CIO, or its predecessor , appeared on the scene in 1942 and, having established itself as the majority representative of certain of respondent's em- ployees, engaged in bargaining with the respondent and secured col- lective bargaining agreements . At least two labor organizations not affiliated with any national labor organization have similarly main- tained fruitful bargaining relations with the respondent. While this commendable picture of employer-employee relationship is not unique, I set it forth here because of its value in considering the proper infer- ences to be drawn froin the particular evidence relied upon by my col- leagues. More specifically it clearly negates a possible implication that the support and assistance given the Customers' Service Division Club by the respondent was intended to impair employee rights guar- anteed by the Act or was believed by the employees to be so motivated. Apparently my colleagues find that, however commendable and 284 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD innocuous the respondent's sponsorship of the Club as a social organ- ization, the respondent in its relations with the Club has violated the Act in two major respects : i. e., first, it permitted officials of the Club to approach it to discuss matters pertaining to the employment condi- tions of the Club members and partially responded to such discussions by taking affirmative action; and, second, failed to halt the members and officials of the Club when they proceeded to reorganize the Club into a labor organization. In the context of the other evidence in the case, I cannot agree with those findings. It is clear that the Club was organized merely as a social group and there is no evidence that the respondent, at the time it proffered its sponsorship, expected or intended that it should function for any other purpose. From the time of the organization of the Club in May 1941 until its demise in April 1944, it is true that matters pertaining to labor relations were discussed at Club meetings by the members. However, the proclivity of most of our citizens to speak freely on most matters of current interest is a fact which may be judicially noticed, and it would seem extremely unrealistic to hold that the exercise of this in- clination by the Club members had the effect of transforming the Club from a social instrument to a labor organization. It would seem equally unrealistic to require that the respondent insist that the mem- bers of the Club not discuss matters relating to their employment with respondent's officials. While respondent's recognition of the Club as a bargaining agent would have entailed its taking cognizance of the fact that the Club was a labor organization which the respondent could not legally assist, merely to hear the Club without engaging in actual bargaining with it for its members would seem to amount to no more than ordinary courtesy which a reasonable person would be expected to exercise under such circumstances. The only evidence on the record that respondent ever dealt with the Club as a bargaining agent lies in three isolated events. Thus, in August 1942, the Club met with respondent and requested a 15 percent wage increase for the Cutsomers" Service Division employees who numbered about 425. The respondent replied in the negative to the request, but a few weeks later advised the Club that the hourly paid employees of this division would receive a 5 cents per hour increase "with a few exceptions" and that salaried and office employees would receive an approximately equivalent increase. Apparently, this in- crease-was involved in an adjustment and increase of wages for most of respondent's 7500 employees. In April 1943, the Club requested that another increase be granted and, the respondent merely replied.that "there is little likelihood of any increases." Again in August 1943, the Club presented to the re- DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 285 upondent a grievance of Employee Carl Kunart. Respondent advised the interested parties of the reason for its action with respect to Kunart and stated that it would remedy the situation when changed conditions made it convenient to do so. In my opinion , these few isolated inci- dents do not afford substantial evidence that the Club , the ostensible and published purposes of which at all times were purely social in nature, became in whole or in part a labor organization or was ever considered as such by either the employees or the respondent . There- fore , I fail to see that the respondent 's assistance and support of the Club in any manner impinged upon the rights of employees guaranteed by Section 8 (2) of the Act. Nor do I believe that the respondent has violated the Act because the Association ( a labor organization ) was formed by the action of the officers and membership of the Club . There is no substantial evi- dence, that the respondent in any manner instigated or guided the -organization of the Association ; the Association was organized for an entirely different purpose than that for which the Club had existed; instead of limiting its membership to approximately 425 employees in the Customers' Service Division as had the Club, the Association was organized to admit a]1 of respondent 's 7500 non -supervisory employees; and shortly after the dissolution of the Club , the Association elected new officers , only one of whom had been an official of the Club. Following the decision of the members of the Club to form the Association , the respondent did not offer or give the Association any assistance . Indeed, the respondent made it abundantly clear to the employees that the Association could look to it for no favors. Thus, ,on May 19, 1944 , the respondent distributed to its employees a letter stating, in part : In general , it is a well-known and long established practice to supply employe groups , organized as clubs, associations, and technical societies , with facilities reasonable to the use and need of such organizations . The purpose of such groups is generally of a recreational , charitable , educational , or social nature. No- tices, bulletins , publications , and publicity in connection therewith have also at times been furnished when appropriate and reason- able. This practice has been eminently satisfactory and there is no reason to change it. A review of this matter raises the question as to whether such practice should be extended to groups of employees wishing to meet to discuss or act among themselves upon matters incident to collective bargaining. It is the Company 's belief that decisions as to the appropriateness -of holding such -meetings on Company 286 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD property might, in some cases, unnitentionally lead to lack of impartial treatment as between groups, or at least have the appear- ance of such. It is the intent of the Company that there shall be entire equality of treatment of employe groups engaged in col- lective bargaining activities. As has been said many times before, the Company has no desire to influence the choice of employes in the matter of representation or nonrepresentation for the purpose of collective bargaining or as to any particular agent or form of agency to be used and believes that such policy is for the best interest of both the employes and the Company. Furthermore, when the Association requested that the respondent recognize it as majority representative of certain employees, the re- spondent merely refused to do so until the Association was so certified by the Board. Under the circumstances of this case and with due consideration of the respondent's labor relations background, it seems to me that the conclusion of my colleagues that the respondent "dominated and inter- fered with the formation and administration of the Association and contributed support to it, in violation of Section 8 (2) of the Act," is not supported by substantial evidence. Rather than protecting the lights of employees to select a union of their own choice free from employer influence, it appears that the Board's order, based on moun- tains constructed of molehills, restrains the employees in the exercise of this right by reinoving the Association at least temporarily from the area of representation competition. INTERMEDIATE REPORT Max Rotenberg, Esq., for the Board. Fischer, Brown, Sprague, Franklin and Ford, by Harvey A. Fischer, Esq., for the Respondent. Irwin J. Kasoff, Esq., for the CIO. Mrs. Patricia Bromberg, for the Association. STATEMENT OF THE CASE Upon an amended charge 1 duly filed on April 16, 1946, by Utility Workers Un- ion of America, CIO, Local 223, herein called CIO, the National Labor Relations Board, herein called the Board, by the Regional Director for the Seventh Region (Detroit, Michigan), issued its complaint dated April 16, 1946, against the De- troit Edison Company, herein called the Respondent, alleging that the Respon- dent had engaged in and was engaging in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8 (1) and (2) and Section 2 (6) and (7) of the National Labor Relations Act, 49 Stat. 449, herein called the Act. Copies of the complaint 1 The original charge was filed on November 6, 1944 , by the U. W. O. C. DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 287 and notice of hearing thereon were duly served on the Respondent, the CIO and the Detroit Edison Employees Association, herein called the Association. With respect to the unfair labor practices, the complaint alleges in substance : (1) that the Respondent through named officers, agents and supervisors, by stated acts, interfered with, restrained, and coerced its employees within the meaning of Section S (1) of the Act, and (2) that the Respondent dominated and inter- fered with the Detroit Edison Employees Association, and contributed financial and other support to it thereby engaging in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8 (2) of the Act. On April 30, 1946, the Respondent filed its answer in which it admits the facts alleged by the complaint as to its corporate organization and the nature and extent of its business, but denies that it is engaged in commerce within the mean- ing of the Act, and that it has committed any of the alleged unfair labor prac- tices. On May 24, 1946, the Association filed its answer denying that it has been dominated and interfered with by the Respondent and that it has received financial or other support from the Respondent. Pursuant to notice, a hearing was held on May 16 through â lay 24, 1946, at Detroit, Michigan, before the undersigned, Charles 17 Persons, the Trial Examiner duly designated by the Chief Trial Examiner. The Board, the Respondent, the CIO, and the Association were represented by counsel. Full opportunity to be heard, to examine and cross-examine witnesses and to introduce evidence bearing on the issues was afforded all parties. Prior to the hearing, on April 30, 1946, the respondent filed with the Regional Director a motion for a Bill of Particulars. On May 6, 1946, Trial Examiner Robert N. Denham, to whom this motion had been duly referred, issued an order granting the motion of the Respondent in part, and denying it in part. Pursuant to this order the Boaid furnished a Bill of Particulars. On May 14, 1946, the Respondent filed its answer to the Bill of Particulars and motion to strike all allegations of paragraphs 5, 5a and 5b of the complaint, as well as the Bill of Particulars, as not fulfilling Trial Examiner Denham's order nor the requirements of the Act. This motion was referred to the undersigned Trial Examiner at the opening of the hearing and was then denied with the proviso that if the Respondent found at the end of the Board's pres- entation in chief that it needed time to prepare its defense, such a motion would be given sympathetic consideration and, further, that the Board would be directed to recall any witnesses for further cross-examination at the request of the Respondent. No such motion or request was later made. At the close of the Board's and the Intervenor's presentation, the Respondent moved to strike the complaint as to its several paragraphs and in its entirety for failure of proof. This motion was granted so far as it referred to certain allegations regarding Foreman Lawrence Von Tremper, but denied as to all other matters. These motions were renewed at the close of the hearing at which time they were taken under advisement and are now disposed of by the findings, conclusions and recommendations contained in this Intermediate Report. At the close of the hearing the Board moved to conform the pleadings to the proof as to minor matters. This motion was granted without objection. At the conclusion of the presentation of testimony, all parties waived oral argument before the undersigned. The parties were duly advised that they had the privilege of presenting briefs for the consideration of the Trial Examiner. The Respondent duly presented such a brief. Upon the entire record in the case and from his observation of the witnesses, the undersigned makes the following : 755420-48-vol 74-20 _238 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD FINDINGS OF FACT 1. THE BUSINESS OF THE RESPONDENT 2 The Respondent, Detroit Edison Company, is a New York corporation with its --principal office and place of business in Detroit, Michigan It is a public utility engaged in the generation and sale of electricity to consumers located in 13 coun- ties, covering an area of 8,000 square miles, situated in the south and east of Michigan. The area served includes the city and suburbs of Detroit The -Respondent also operates several steam plants which furnish heat to most of the larger office buildings and hotels in Detroit These steam plants use annually -approximately 2,000,000 tons of coal, all of which is shipped to the Respondent's plants from points outside the State of Michigan The Respondent purchases annually several million dollars worth of supplies of which a substantial part is shipped to its plants from points outside the State of Michigan. It furnishes electrical energy to the plants of General Motors Corporation, Chrysler Cor- -poration, the Michigan Central Railroad, Western Union Telegraph Company and Michigan Bell Telephone Company. The Respondent has about 7,500 employees. The undersigned finds that the respondent is engaged in commerce within the -meaning of the Act. II THE ORGANIZATION INVOLVED Customers Service Division Club, herein called Club, from May 1941 until May 1, 1944, was an unaffiliated labor organization admitting to its membership .employees of the Respondent in the Customers Service Division. The Detroit Edison Employees Association, an unaffiliated organization, and the Utility Workers of America, CIO, Local 223, are labor organizations admitting, to member- ship employees of the Respondent. III. THE ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES A. Background The Respondent has maintained collective bargaining agreements with the .International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, AFL, herein called IBEW, for certain of its employees for over 30 years. On December 1, 1942, a hearing was held before a Board's Trial Examiner resulting in a Decision and Order, issued on January 8, 1943, for an election among dispatchers in the Respondent's 'Detroit line boaxd dispatching office.' IBEW won this election and was certified ,,on February .6, 1943. A collective bargaining contract was later executed. At the time of the hearing the IBEW had two agreements with the Respondent covering three groups of employees. Early in 1942 the CIO began organizational activities among Respondent's employees. Late in that year the CIO approached the Respondent claiming majority membership in a certain department and requesting recognition. Re- spondent's officials at the time, and uniformly thereafter, informed the CIO that a prerequisite to collective bargaining would be certification by the Board. On ,application to.the Board's Regional Office a hearing was held late in 1942. Local 2 These findings are based on allegations in the complaint admitted by the Respondent in its answer, and on uncontradicted testimony in the record. At the hearing the Respond- ent admitted that the -data as to the extent of its business had not substantially changed -since May 20, 1943. On that date in Matter of Detroit Edison Company (49 N L R B. 973, 976), the Board ;found that the Respondent was engaged in commerce within the ,,meaning of the Act 3 Matter of Detroit Edison Company, Case No. R-4616, 46 N L R. B 890 DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 289 223 was certified and the first bargaining between the CIO and the Respondent began March 31, 1943. In 1943, 11 elections were held in vatious departments of the Respondent. In the case of the underground employees, where a contest developed between the IBEW and the CIO, a Board hearing was held on April 9 and 10, 1943, and an election was ordered .4 The CIO won and was duly certified on July 21, 1943, as the exclusive bargaining representative At the time of the -hearing in the instant proceeding, the CIO and the Respondent had executed collective bargaining agreements covering appropriate units set up in 10 divisions or departments in Respondent's plants On May 24, 1945, the Customers' Accounts Employees Association petitioned the Board for certification of representatives. A consent election was there- after held in which the organization was successful. Collective bargaining en- sued and at the time of the hearing in the instant proceeding a collective bar- .gaining agreement had been executed. Some of the operating units combined in the Respondent company have been in existence at least since 1896. An unusual number of clubs and associations for social, recreational, charitable and educational purposes has been developed among its employees. About 25 were designated on the record These or- ganizations use Respondent's sheeting places without charge. They make free use of its interdepartmental telephone and mail facilities. Most of them have long enjoyed substantial financial and other subventions from the Respondent. The Edison Boat Club has a membership of approximately 375 employees each of whom pays $6.00 annually as dues. Their club house was built by Respondent on its property and is maintained in part by it Each year the Respondent as- sumes any deficiency in revenues resulting from the Club's operations. In 1945 this Club received $2,850 in cash advances and $S75.40 in meals or other expenses from the Respondent. The Linkage Club whose membership is recruited among the substation em- ployees of the Respondent, was first organized in 1935 Its functions were described by F. C. Pohl as follows : ° A club of Sub-station Department employees . . . dedicated to the social and recreational grouping together for mutual benefits . . and it carried also a sort of a unified medium for presenting suggestions and things that would border on grievances . . . It was a medium through which these things could be discussed and exchanged. The Respondent maintains a club house containing six bowling alleys and "a semi-finished club room" for the use of members of the Linkage Club. Members Mattel of Detroit Edison Co . Case No R-5157, 49 N L R B 975 5 Those findings are based on credited testimony of Union Relations Advisor Lyndon J. Kaufmann and Employee Martin J. O'Dell, president of Local 223. O'Dell had been in charge of organization among Respondent's employees since June of 1942 He listed the 10 groups Sub-Station Department Pioduction Depaitment Underground Lines Department Motor Transportation Department Building Operations Department Field Construction Department Field Shops Division of Construction Depaitment Meter Readers Division of Accounting Department Plant Protection Division Port Huron Gas Division Pohl was an employee of 25 years standing and, when he testified , Assistant to the Superintendent of Electrical Systems 290 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD pay "nominal dues and a small bowling fee" and the Respondent annually as- sumes any deficit in the Club's finances. In 1945 this subsidy amounted to $200 Total cash payments paid in that year to 23 named clubs and associations and to "Miscellaneous clubs" amounted to nearly $17,000. In addition, the Respond- ent paid in behalf of these organizations, over $10,000 for "meals and other ex- penses." While these organizations were not organized and maintained for the purpose of presenting grievances to the Respondent or discussing working conditions with it, they have frequently participated in conferences of that nature F. C Pohl, assistant to the superintendent of the electrical system, who had been associated with the Linkage Club since its organization, testified and the undersigned finds, that he had "discussed conditions of employment among sub-station employees" with various committees of the Linkage Club. After the certification of the CIO in this department Pohl carried on similar discus- sions with the Union. An excerpt from his testimony in point here reads: Q And what did you discuss with them [CIO] subsequent to April, 1943? A The same sort of things, pertaining to shift schedules, rotation, better- ment of these same schedules, wages were very prominent among the list of items discussed, working conditions as they related to all the ramifica- tions of our business where manipulations can sometimes work out a better- ment from the employees' standpoint. I saw no difference between the sub- jects discussed after than before, except that afterwards it was clearly recognized that it was the Union we were discussing it with. It was Pohl's further credited testimony that "complaints," betterment of working conditions, and wage adjustments' were informally handled with Linkage Club representatives; that determinations reached were often reduced to writing and published by the Respondent and that settlements made were applicable to all employees affected. Similarly Respondents Union Relations adviser Lynden J. Kaufmann testi- fied, and the undersigned finds, that three or four clubs, including the Linkage Club, whose membership was restricted to a department, had committees set up as "a convenient means for referring requests" to management. It was Kaufmann's further credited testimony that the Respondent "has the policy of listening to a complaint by an individual employee through any medium." As Kaufmann also testified, it habitually received and considered requests for wage increases when submitted by representatives of the Clubs and Associa- tions. Kaufmann defined Respondent's policies as indicated in the following excerpts from his testimony : Q. Now, if a group in about two or three year period presented two, or three grievances and made two or three requests for a wage raise some- what formally, with representatives from both sides present, would you say that they had in any degree lost their status as a mere social club, and become a union? A I would say if they made it apparent that they wished to do that sort of bargaining, that the Company would refuse to bargain with them un- less they were officially so designated. Q. Would they lose any part of their privileges in using the Company's recreational facilities, and so forth? 4 Pohl testified , "Well, there were raises granted , yes, sir , as a result of usually pro- longed study and conferences with [representatives of the Linkage Club]." DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 291 A. Definitely yes, but they could still use our assembly room for dances; they could still meet for educational [or] social purposes. We would permit that to A. F. L. or C. I. 0 without reservation. Q. But you would object to them using your premises for business meetings? A. If they reached a point where we believed it was bargaining, yes, they could not do that. B. The alleged domination and interference with a labor organization and con- tribution of financial and other support to it 1. The organization and activities of the Club The Customers' Service Division Club was organized in May of 1941. Its membership was confined to employees of the Division which is a subordinate organization in the Sales Department. Four employees of the Division, work- ing in the Respondent's Grand River office, Lawrence L. LeMond, Robert Brooks, Edward Hubbard and Lester Oliphant, in conversation with Lawrence Von Tremper,8 at the time assistant foreman in charge of four locations on the west side of Detroit, told him of their desire to form a club for employees of the Division. LeMond as a Board Witness stated their purposes as follows : Well, we talked about establishing a Club in our Division like the Linkage or Power Club . . . The fellows wanted to have some means of association amongst themselves for good fellowship, also to assume the donations like for flowers for sickness and . . . the athletic part of it, the fellows that had a tendency for the enjoyment of playing ball and basket- ball . . . and we presumed that by putting all these desires into one basket we could create a Club to take care of all the expenditures and things of that nature. After being assured that the group was "sincerely interested," Tremper arranged that they should meet H. R. Stevenson, assistant superintendent of the Division. Stevenson entertained them at dinner and encouraged them to proceed with their plans. At his suggestion LeMond and Brooks used the Respondent's telephone system on the following Monday in contacting about 80 employees in the Division. Operators on the switch board referred employees to LeMond and Brooks who informed them of the plans for a new club and announced a meeting for employees to be held on May 13, 1941. About 90 employees, none of whom were supervisors, attended this initial meeting. Their first act was to vote by a large majority in favor of organizing the pro- posed club. Committees were appointed to investigate the benefits of the A. F. of L., the Linkage Club and the Michigan Bell Telephone Association.' Le- Mond acted as chairman at each of three meetings for organization. The second'meeting was held on May 20, 1941. After reports were received from the committees who had investigated other organizations, the employees present voted 80 to 24 in favor of forming "an organization within the Com- pany." LeMond, as temporary chairman, was authorized to appoint an or- ganizing committee. He selected 11 employees, each of whom represented a craft group within the Division. On June 4, 1941, proposed Articles of Association and Bylaws were discussed s Tremper's name is frequently spelled Tramper in the record. The original motion included the C I. 0. It was voted later to omit this organization. LeMond's testimony was in error on this point. 292 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOAR]) in a third meeting and adopted with some amendments These articles pro- vided for a Board of Control of-11 members and a President, Vice President and Secretary-Treasurer drawn from this Board. These officials were to "su-- pervise the affairs of the Club." Membership was limited to employees of the- Division "continuously employed by the Customers Service Division for a period of not less than six months" It will be noted that this definition by its terms includes supervisory employees. Most of the supervisors in the Cus- tomers' Service Division were dues paying members of the Club.3° They were- entitled to all privileges of the Club except that, after a revision of the Articles of Association adopted in 1942, they were not eligible to hold an elective office. The Club had no initiation fee and dues were fixed at $1.00 a year. The Board of Control held regular meetings once each month. An annual meeting of the membership was held late in February each year. At this time the President and Vice President were elected by vote of the membership. Special meetings of the general membership were called by the President, by the Board of Con- trol or on written request of 10 members for such a meeting. The objects of this Club as stated in its Articles of Association of June 4, 1941 were: 1. To form a Club among the employees of the Customer's Service Division of the Detroit Edison Company. 2 To maintain a flower fund. 3. To promote a bond of fellowship for mutual aid and sociability amongst members of the Division Clause number 3 was expanded in a revision of the Articles made in 1942 by adding : By organizing and supervising such activities for its members such as athletic teams, bowling leagues, annual outings, and maintaining a fund for expressions of sympathy to members in case of illness or death. All meetings of the Club were held on company property without charge Elec- tions for Board of Control members and on Club questions were frequently held[ during working time. Ballot boxes were normally open for a week to allow oppor- tunity for all shift members to vote The Club members and officials used the- Respondent's telephones and inter-departmental mail facilities freely in carrying on Club business. During the first year of the Club, its secretary "boirowed company stationery without requesting permission and without subsequent re- placement. At the annual meetings in February 1943 and 1944, the members in attendance were dinner guests of Superintendent Stoufter. On both occasions' Stouffer spoke to members about matters pertaining to employment conditions. In 1944 Vice President and Sales Manager A P. McLay was also present and spoke. Stouffer also paid for a supper for 35 or 36 temale members of the Club in, 1944." During 1942 and 1943, Employee Ruthe Hine did typing and other 10 E C. Williams , secretary-treasurer of the Club for 3 years, named as members of the- Club Arthur Martin, foreman at the Gratiot station , Walter Chamberlain, foreman at the Twelfth Street station , L. Von Tremper and Arthur Phelps, foremen at the Grand River station ; Edward Sheridan , assistant Supervisor on the B telephone board , and H R. Stevenson , assistant superintendent . E. J Stouffer, superintendent of the Division, was regulaily given a complimentary membership 11 This finding is based on the unassailed and credited testimony of Employee Rernan. She was unable to given an exact date but it is clear that the incident happened while the Club was functioning Rernan 's testimony reads : Well, at the time Jean Headman was the girl s representative she decided they would like to have a party for the girls, have a supper upstairs in the auditorium and DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 293 clerical work for the Club's Secretary-Treasurer, E. C. Williams, on Respondent's time and without cost to the Club. Although the original purposes of the Club were those quoted above from the Articles of Association, the officials soon found it impossible to avoid taking some action on "wages, hours and conditions of work " The matter was stated vividly by Williams, who served the Club as Secretary-Treasurer during its first 3 years.- His pertinent testimony reads : Very early in the existence of the Club we found that we had to constitute ourselves as a sort of clearing house because anyone who had any sort of complaint to make about his work thought that the entire membership of the Board of Control should immediately dash up and see the boss about it. So most of that stuff we were able, we stopped right there. Only on things we thought of major importance did we ever try to take it further. Such a matter of "major importance" was brought up in a special meeting of the general membership on August 7, 1942. At this meeting a letter from Stouffer was read which dealt with extension of work-time from a 5 to a 6 day week and other changes in working conditions resulting from the war. Stouf- fer's letter further stated : If at any time your Board of Governors wishes to discuss any personal or Company matters with any Company official, we should be glad to have you do so. There was general discussion at the meeting of the "pros and cons of union affiliation", followed by a vote of confidence in the Club carried by 92 affirmative votes to 6 in the negative. The problem of car rental was discussed with the result that the Club decided not to advocate an increased allowance. At the close of the meeting the Board of Control was instructed to ask the Respondent for a 15 percent raise.' Pursuant to this instruction the Club's Board of Control met, on August 20, 1942, with Vice President and Sales Manager Sarah M. Sheridan, T. J Peterson, who was assistant to R T Duncan, head of the Sales Department, and Stouffer. The Board of Control presented the Club's request for a 15 percent raise. One of the employee representatives had procured a copy of the Respondent's last annual report showing a payment of $3,000,000 excess profit tax He used this showing in countering the Respondent's assertions that it could not possibly grant the requested increase in pay.13 Whereupon he was told "that the Gov- ernment needed that money for war purposes, and it was very unpatriotic for [the Club representatives] to come up there and ask for part of it." The Respondent's representatives further displayed charts purporting to show that have some kind of a card party afterwards As I understand, the Club allowed us forty-five dollars and Stouffer told Miss Herdman he would make up the difference if she needed it I was the one who arranged about the supper I saw Miss Beck, who is the head of the cafeteria, and arranged a menu and she sent the bill directly to Mr Stouffer and we used the cash from the Club for the prizes and other expenses attached to the party. This statement is drawn from the minutes of the Club E C Williams and John J. McKernan gave accounts which, allowing for the normal infirmities of memory, are sub- stantially in accord The increase requested is variously stated as 15 percent and 15 cents an hour 11E C Williams' testimony in point here reads. "We mentioned the fact that . . . possibly we could use the money which was going to excess taxes better than the Company but the Company rather vehemently disagreed to that and said it was unpatriotic." 294 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD the.employees in the Division were the highest paid public utility employees in their type of work. At a second meeting of the Board of Control with repre- sentatives of the Respondent held on September 9, 1942, Sheridan stated that a raise of 5 cents an hour, retroactive to August 31, would be given to the hourly paid men "with a few exceptions". Approximately equivalent increases were promised for the salaried and office employees. On April 29, 1943, the Boai d of Control met with Stouffer. There was general discussion of working conditions covering such matters as the 48 hour week, sen- iority as affected by releases for more essential war work, dispatching of field workers to unusual assignments and work in rainy weather. Discussion of wages seems to have been confined to a statement by Stouffer that, "Since wages are frozen there is little likelihood of any increases " On August 17, 1943, the Board of Control again conferred with Stouffer regard- ing a grievance presented by Employee Carl hunart. The details of this con- ference are not material here. Kunart was present and the matter was amicably settled. 2. The formation and activities of the Association As noted above the question of union affiliation was discussed on August 7, 1942, at a special meeting of the Club membership. At a time, not definitely fixed by the record but prior to September 9, 1943, a committee was appoi nted to consider revision of the constitution. At a meeting of the Board of Control held on January 12, 1944, it was ordered that the proposed changes in the constitution be voted on at the ensuing February annual meeting and, if approved, become effec- tive immediately. At this meeting the retiring president, A C. Runge, announced that the proposed amendments had been defeated. He proceeded to discuss "the growing amount of talk among members and employees on unionism " His remarks met opposition and in the balloting which followed Runge was defeated for reelection as president by J. C. Currell, a member of the Board of Control who was prominent among employees desiring to change the organization from a social club to a union. During his term as Club president Runge had gone to Stouffer and "inquired about the Club changing to an association." 14 Stouffer arranged that Runge meet Respondent's vice president, P J. Savage. Stouffer and Kaufmann, Union Relations Adviser for the Respondent, were present at the interview. Stouffer gave the following credited testimony regarding it : Well, I introduced Runge to Mr. Savage and Runge told Mr. Savage that the club was desirous of forming an association for bargaining purposes on working conditions and wage rates, and wanted to know if the Company would recognize this group as such. Mr Savage informed him that they would have to go through the regular channels of securing ci•rtihcation from the . . . [Board] . . . before the Company would recognize them as a bar- gaining unit. That was about the extent of the conversation. Kaufmann's testimony in point here reads : He [Savage] stated that the Company's position, as he remembered it-in fact, we had no choice whether we wanted to bargain with the Association, after they were certified by the [Board] if he understood correctly. And then he turned to me and said, "I believe that is what you have told me on 14 This quotation is from Stouffer 's testimony. DETROIT EDISON COMPAN I 295 similar occasions " And I said, "Yes, that is true, under the law we have no choice." That was about the extent of my participation in it' On March 7, 1944, at the first meeting of the Board of Control, elected on Feb- ruary 23, 1944, John McCluskey, the newly elected secretary-treasurer, sponsored the following motion : That a committee be appointed to revise our Articles of Association and By-Laws of the [Club] . . . (including a change of the name of the organization) for the purpose of providing an organization through which the members may select representatives of their own choosing to negotiate and bargain collectively with the management of the Detroit Edison Company, in respect to rates of pay, wages, hours of employment or other conditions of employment. To provide an organization for the employees of the De- troit Edison Company that is controlled by said employees through member- ship in this organization. An affirmative vote is recorded for each of the 12 Board of Control members in attendance." On April 18, 1944, the Board of Control held a "lengthy discussion" of the pro- posed new Constitution and By-Laws On separate motions each article was unanimously approved. The Board of Control then set April 27, 1944, for the membershib at large to vote on adoption of the new Constitution and By-Laws. Under date of April 17, 1944, over the signature of Club President Currell, a bulletin was mailed to Club members, which stated that the purpose of the pro- posed change in the Constitution and By-Laws was "to provide for a Company- wide organization of. employees to make certain that in case of a request for a vote to determine who your bargaining agent shall be, you will be given the choice between an Independent Union, The Detroit Edison Employees Associ- ation, or an outside union national in scope " This bulletin further presented arguments in favor of the change and listed advantages which its proponents felt would be gained if an independent union were formed and supported. It is established by the record that an election was held on Respondent's premises about April 27, 1944, to determine whether the Club members would accept the proposed change to an organization qualified to become the statutory representative of the employees. Ballot boxes were maintained for several days in the plants and offices and employees frequently voted in working time." The 15 Neither Runge nor Savage was called as a witness . There is coi roboration of Stouffer's account in the credible testimony of E C Williams who stated that Runge told hint on the evening after his interview with Savage what had then occurred Williams' testimony reads : Runge told me that Savage told him that the Company had no objection to any type of organization ; that we could become a Union or affiliate with a Union How- ever, he told us a club the size of ours would not have much chance in competition with larger Unions in the Company, and Mr. Runge said he laughed then and said he couldn't, advise us, lie said, "Well, it's against the law to advise you," so he didn't say anything more on the subject. Employee John J. McKernan also gave testimony substantially equivalent to this quotation. 10 The committee appointed by Curiell included Herbert E. Cook, who was "to sit in as an advisor." Cook was a special representative or staff man , working under Stouffer. His duties were "to coordinate electrical ordinances or laws within different municipali- ties" served by the Respondent. He was a dues paying member of the Club and did not supervise the work of any employee . Under these conditions , the undersigned finds no merit in the Board ' s contention that his service on this committee involved the Respondent in the Club's affairs. "It is clear that no Association election subsequent to April 27 , 1944, was held on Respondent 's premises. 296 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Club members voted 263 to 17 to approve the plan for the formation of the Associa- tion.18 On May 5, Currell announced the result to the membership. A day earlier he had written Stouffer stating that the Club had been changed into an association capable of fqnctioning as a statutory representative. On May 5, Stouffer acknowledged receipt of Currell's letter and stated that, together with a copy of his own answer, it had been forwarded to Savage. The amendments, as approved by the membership vote of April 27, 1944, changed the name of the Club to the Detroit Edison Employees Association and stated the purposes of the Association to be : 1 To provide an organization through which the members may select representatives of their own choosing, to negotiate and bargain collectively with the management of the Detroit Edison Company with respect to rates of pay, wages, remunerations, hours of employment and other conditions of employment. 2. To promote a bond of fellowship for mutual aid and sociability among members, mutual aid not to include payment of sick and death benefits 3 To provide an organization for the employees of the Detroit Edison Company that is controlled by said employees through membership in this organization 19 Both in Currell's letter to Stouffer and in the application for registration with The Michigan Corporation and Securities Commission, it is stated that the effective date for the change from Club to Association is May 1, 1944. Although the filing date with this State agency was June 29, 1944, and, as Respondent contends, this is the effective date under State law, the undersigned after consideration of the record finds that, for Board purposes, the change is complete and effective on proper counting and reporting of the affirmative vote of the membership. On this basis May 1, 1944, is accepted as the transition date. The new constitution provides for an ambitious organization coextensive with the Respondent's busi- ness. It retained the requirement of six month employment as prerequisite for membership but stated that "no confirmed or recognized supervisors might become a member" and further provided that a member when promoted to a supervisory position must relinquish his membership. A Board of Control was to be selected with a representative from each of nine Divisions resulting from a grouping of -crafts or divisions in the Respondent's organization Provision was made for annual elections of officers including a president, 2 vice presidents, a secretary and a treasurer. The president and vice presidents were to be elected by the Board of Control from its own membership; the secretary and the treasurer by that body from the membership at large. Dues were set at $1.00 per month for the first 3 months and 50 cents per month thereafter. The Association promptly arranged to lease space in a Detroit office building. The lease therefore was dated May 26, 1944. However, temporary quarters, as the Association's paid telephone bill shows, had been secured on May 2, 1944. All meetings of the Association after May 10, 1944, were held off Respondent's property. Nothing in the record suggests that the Association made any use of Respondent's facilities after May 10, 1944 The Association assumed all liabilities of the Club and took over its bank 18 There were approximately 425 employees in the Customers' Service Division It will be remembered that membership in the Club was restricted to employees with 6 months' service. 19 Quoted fiom the Association's application for registration as a nonprofit corporation. DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 297 account and personal property. The officers of the Club elected in the February 3944 meeting continued to function until new elections were held on June 30, 1944. At that time, four members of a Department Committee were selected. Currell testified, and the undersigned finds, that he was elected as president of the Association at this time. Two vice presidents, a secretary and a treasurer were also elected. None of these officials, except Currell, had been elected in February 1944, as Club Officers. However, one of the Department Committee members, John Dent, had been vice president of the Club from February 1943 to February 1944. The Association entered on a vigorous campaign for membership headed by its newly elected officials. On October 13, 1944, Currell wrote to the Respondent claiming that the Association had a majority membership in The Customers' Service Division and in The Eastern Michigan Division and requesting recognition as "exclusive bargaining agent" for designated employees in these Divisions Vice-president Savage replied under date of October 16, 1944, advising that, in his opinion, the unit proposed was "somewhat too broad" and stating further; In accordance with the procedure generally followed when requests for representation are made, it seems appropriate that you place this matter before the Detroit Office of the [Board] for a determination as to whether or not the suggested unit is a proper one for collective bargaining, and for the holding of an election to determine whether or not the employees of the ultimately approved unit desire your organization as their exclusive representative. As noted above, the Club's Board of Control had discussed the problem of car rentals'' Shortly after the formation of the Association, on May 10, 1944, on motion in a Board of Control meeting, a committee consisting of John Runge, Gerry E. Stitt, and John J. McKernan was appointed to see Stouffer "regarding a blanket raise for the Department and a clarification of rumors in regard to the car policy." President Currell and Secretary McCiuskey were to accompany the committee as members ex officio It was Currell's credited testimony that this committee never functioned. On May 23, 1944, in a Board of Control meeting, a second committee consisting of Stitt, as chairman, J. Rivers, S. Covey, Duncan Preston and John Mast, was appointed "to follow up on the car policy." The committee wag instructed "to compile figures to present to the management." This committee seemingly did not function.beyond reporting to a meeting of the Board of Control on June 6, 1944. At that time a new committee consisting of Stitt as chairman, Preston and Mast was appointed, with instructions to present to the management "a rate of $45.00 a month, based on a 5-day week with payment for car for all additional time." The Respondent's proposed change in car rentals was formally stated, on May 24, 1944, over the signature of President and General Manager James W. Parker. Most of the approximately 1060 employee cars used on company business had been paid a fiat rate The respondent proposed to substitute a plan based on a ,mileage rate. Most of the employees affected in the Customers Service Division, said to number 175, found that the proposed change would reduce the amount received for the use of their cars. It is evident that they felt this to be a sub- stantial grievance?' 20 McKernan testified " The Board of Control was constantly discussing the car question. At every meeting practically the car question was up." 21 McKernan gave credited testimony reading, well, the grievance was that the Company . . . was going to put the cars 298 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Stitt, Preston and Mast approached Stouffer and told him they "had been ap- pointed by the [Association] to come down and object to the mileage basis for our car rental." Mast's credited testimony as to Stouffer's reply reads, Mr Stouffer told us that he could do nothing for us, because the [Associa- tion] had no right to bargain but if we could come down there just as em- ployees, of the Customers' Service Division, he would get us another inter- view and he would have Mr. McLay [Vice-President and Sales Manager] at the meeting. Accordingly the committee presented statements to "The Management" under date of June 14 and June 17, 1944, which were signed "Committee on Auto Rental Contract, Customers Service Division." The details of this interchange are not material here. McLay received the matters presented in friendly spirit. His written replies addressed to "Messrs. Stitt, Preston and Mast," are careful to designate them as a committee from the Customers' Service Division rather than from the Association. On June 26, 1944, McLay, Stouffer and Duncan met with a group of employees in the Customers' Service Division. The full Board of Control of the Associa- tion was present 22 Employee Henry Crossman, who was not a member of the Board of Control, also attended. Crossman had been somewhat prominent in the affairs of the Club but had never been an official of that organization After dis- cussion of the data presented by Stitt's committee, "paragraph by paragraph," it was agreed that a ruling should be secured from the War Labor Board as to whether the adjustment of car rentals came within that Board's jurisdiction as an employment question. Pending the receipt of this ruling, the Respondent's representatives promised that no change would be made in the car rental allow- ance. The War Labor' Board found, on October 20, 1944, that such adjustment did not require prior application to and approval by that Board. On December 18, 1944, the Respondent through President Parker advised all employee owners of automobiles used in company service that, with minor exceptions, the car rental contracts in effect on November 26, 1944, would be continued until "govern- mental restrictions on Company mileage are substantially removed" General Conclusions The Board raises four essential questions with reference to the status of the Association and its eligibility to serve as a statutory representative : 1. Whether the Club's activities in dealing with the respondent "concerning grievances, labor disputes, wages, rates of pay, hours of employment, or con- ditions of work," were sufficient to constitute it a labor organization? 2. Whether, if so, the Respondent has dominated or interfered with the Club, or contributed financial or other support to it, to an extent which brought it within the condemnation of Section 8 (2) of the Act? 3. Whether the Association was a successor organization of the Club? 4. Whether, if so, the Association was by that fact, or because of favors on a mileage basis, and the men on the outside thought that this would mean a cut for them in their car rental. Similarly Correll testified, Well, there was a new plan that was brought forward by the Company whereby cars were to go on a mileage basis and our fellows didn't like that type of plan 22 The Board still consisted of the 11 members elected at the annual meeting of the Club on February 23, 1944. Duncan in his testimony testified that a second meeting of man- agement representatives with an employee group was held within a month of the first conference No other witness referred to such a meeting and the Association minutes have no reference to it. DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 299 directly received from the Respondent, rendered incapable of serving the em- ployees as their statutory representative? 1. The Act defines a labor organization to mean "any organization of any kind, or any agency or employee representation committee or plan, in which employees participate and which exists for the purpose, in whole or in part, of dealing with employees concerning grievances, labor disputes, wages, rates of pay, hours of employment, or conditions of work." With the language of this broadly phrased definition in mind, the answer to the first query must clearly be in the affirmative. While perusal of the minutes of the Club indicates that its essential purposes were charitable, social, athletic, educational and recreational and that the major part of its finances and of the activities of its officials and members were expended on these matters, still in presenting Employee Punart'a grievance, in discussing various matters pertaining to working conditions with representatives of manage- ment, and in the presentation of a request for a general wage increase through its duly constituted officials, the Club plainly dealt with the Respondent concerning grievances , wages and conditions of work. 2. Answering the second question raised by the Board presents more difficulty. Unquestionably the Club had received substantial "financial or other support" from the Respondent. There was also a measure of interference with its for- mation. However, both this interference and the support rendered by the Respondent was plainly with intent to aid a social organization similar in char- acter to over 20 other clubs among the Respondent's employees. With support to such organizations, the Board and its agents have no concern. The record in this proceeding is barren of evidence or suggestion that the Respondent's subventions to the Club were made with intent to affect, or prevent, its activity as a labor organization. It is noted that both in the period when the Club, and when the Association was active, there was no other organization which claimed majority representation among the employees of the Customers' Service Division. Further, the Respondent was justified in conferring with the Club, on all grievances which its members wished to present, under the proviso attached to Section 9 of the Act, which declares "That any individual employee or a group of employees shall have the right at any time to present grievances to their em- ployer." The request for a general increase in wages presented by the Club's Board of Control in August 1942 covered the employees in the Customers' Service Division. However, representatives of the Respondent in receiving the Club's officials and considering their demand cannot be said to have entered upon negotiations with them. After independent deliberations the Respondent's officials rendered a decision regarded by both parties as a final answer. The Respondent did no more than dispose of a grievance as to wages. This was plainly legitimate action under the proviso quoted. Nothing in the record supports a finding that the Respondent dominated the formation or the admin- istration of the Club. At most it rendered financial and other support to its social and recreational activities. In this state of the record the undersigned finds that no taint of illegality under the Act was proven as to the Club. 3. It is clear that the Association was a successor organization to the Club. The reorganization was effected by officials selected by the Club members. The assets of the Club, including its bank account, passed directly to the Asso- ciation. The officials of the Club continued to direct the Association's affairs for a period of 2 months until June 30, 1944, and, while the employees were solic- ited to sign new applications for membership in the Association, there was no "line of fracture or break in continuity" between Club and Association business. The undersigned finds that the Association was a successor to the Club. 300 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD 4. The fourth question is crucial in reaching a decision in the instant proceed- ing. Is the Association disqualified as a statutory representative because it is a successor of the Club, which, while acting as a labor organization, received sub- stantial subventions from the Respondent and its officials? In answering this question account must be taken of the background The Club operated as did over 20 other organizations among Respondent's employees. Many of these clubs incidentally handled matters pertaining to working conditions. Most of them received substantial "financial or other support" from the Respondent. How- ever, there is no suggestion that .their handling of labor matters was affected thereby, nor yet that the Respondent so intended. When a qualified statutory representative appeared and was approved by the Board both these Clubs and the Respondent accepted the new situation in loyal adherence to the provisions of the Act In the case of the Customers' Accounts Employees Association, this social club was transformed into a labor organization and became the recognized statutory representative. This was done without change of name or break in the continuity of its operations. That organization enjoyed the approbation of the Board's agents in the Detroit Regional Office. Its Board of Directors adopted a new constitution on December 6, 1943, which was approved by the membership on January 18, 1944. The organization petitioned the Board for Certification of Representatives on May 24, 1945. A consent election was held under Board auspices on or about July 16, 1945. Thereafter the Board's Regional Director in the Seventh Region determined that the Customers' Accounts Employees Associa- tion was successful. It thereupon was recognized as the exclusive bargaining agent for "all employees of the Customers' Accounts Division of the Respondent." The undersigned finds in this action by the Board's agents a significant precedent affecting the instant proceedings. Since the Association in the Cus- tomers' Accounts Division was in every respect analogous to the Club, both em- ployees and Respondent might reasonably anticipate that the Board would accord the Club and its successor, the Association, substantially similar treatment to that given the Customers' Accounts Division Association The record shows that the members of the Association made every reasonable effort to divest themselves of the indicia of a dominated organization The name of their organization was changed ; their constitution and by-laws were entirely rewritten ; the basis of membership was enlarged ; the plan of organization was radically altered ; supervisory employees were excluded from membership, dues were substantially increased; meetings were, held in Association quarters and all use of Respondent's facilities was sedulously avoided. The Respondent was similarly careful to give the new organization no favors and to abstain from granting it any recognition pending certification by the Board. On May 19, 1944, it carefully stated its intentions to remain neutral in all matters affecting labor organizations and publicized its policies directly to the indivdual employees. While it dealt with a committee named by the Association, such action is clearly within the proviso attached to Section 9 of the Act. "Any group at any time" is there authorized to present the grievance arising when the employees. members of the Association found, as the committee stated, that 137 of 175 employee car owners in the Customers' Service Division would be adversely affected by the proposed change in the basis of car rentals No fault, under the Act, can be ascribed either to the Association or to the Respondent from this occurrence. This is especially true since there was at the time no recognized statutory rep- resent:iti.e for employees in the Customers' Service Division In sum, the final query resolves itself into balancing consideration of the pos- sible technical disqualification attached to the Association as a successor organi- DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 301 zation to the Club, which had incidental labor organizational activities and re- ceived subventions from the Respondent as a social organization, against the Association's character as a labor organization arising after full and free dis- cussion among the employees, steadfastly supported by its members and plainly their choice as bargaining lepresentative.2i The undersigned finds, after consid- eration of the full record, that the Association may not be disqualified on such tenuous and technical grounds. Such a result would run counter to the "full freedom of association, self-organization and designation of representatives of their own choosing" which is the basis for the policy of the United States im- plemented by the Act. It is the duty of the Board and its agents to maintain such full freedom of action by employees.24 After consideration of the full record the undersigned concludes and finds that the Association is an untrammeled and- free bargaining agent and is not dis- qualified as a statutory representative of Respondent's employees by the circum- stances disclosed as to its origin, its activities nor by any proven relationship with the Respondent. He, therefore, finds no merit in this contention of the Board and will recommend that so much of the complaint as alleges that the Respondent "dominated and interfered with the formation and administration of the Association and contributed financial and other support to the Associa- tion", be dismissed. C. Alleged interference, restraint, and coercion. Employee John J. McKernan testified that at a conference, between repre- sentatives of the Respondent and of employees in the Customers' Service Division about car rentals, held on June 26, 1944,n he and Employee Gerry Stitt were seated across the conference table from E. J Stouffer, Superintendent of the Division and Roy T. Duncan, conin^ercial superintendent in the Sales Department McKernan testified that Stitt warned Duncan "that if there didn't something come out of this meeting that a number of the men would join one of the other International Unions." McKernan's further testimony as to Duncan's reply reads as follows : Mr Duncan's reply was that he had been out through the districts the pievious week and that the people these had been having a lot of pressure thrown on them to join the C. I 0. and they came to him to find out, if possible, if there was anything he could do about this pressure that was being put on them, and Mr Duncan told us that he told them that they could join the [Association]. It was McKernan's testimony that general discussion was renewed and that neither lie nor Stitt made any reply to Duncan's observation. n Cf. Matter of Providence Gas Co., 41 N. L R. B. 1121, 1143-4, where the Board said we conclude that the choice of the Association resulted from a free exercise of the employees' right to self organization without either direct interference by the respondent or vestigial interference inherent in, or continuing from, earlier company domination. 24 Cf Matter of Commonwealth Plaster Co ., 34 N L . R B 1129, 1145 The Board found evidence of interference with an independent union but states We nevertheless are convinced that the potency of the desire on the part of the majority of the employees for an independent labor organization such as the Council transcended the effect of [these acts of interference]. 23McKernan first testified that the incident occurred in Maich 1944 When shown the minutes of the Association meeting, dated May 10, 1944, at which the committee was appointed , he changed this to May 1944 Documentaiy evidence establishes the date stated above. 302 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Duncan was called as a witness by the Respondent and flatly denied that he had ever advised any employee of the Respondent to join the Association When asked specifically about the statements ascribed to him by McKernan, Duncan replied that he had "no recollection of any such statement as that." In his testimony, he gave the following explanatory statement : Well, during this period of car rentals there were a, lot of talk about unionization. I had heard it, like everybody else. I have had lots of em- ployees who would ask me in a kidding way about it and maybe I would say, `why don't you join?' or something like that. I never tried to influence any- body about joining. I have no recollection about ever talking seriously with anybody about union matters. Although Stouffer was examined at length as a Board witness, he was not questioned as to this incident. Stitt was called as a witness for the Board but was not asked about this conversation. Under these circumstances, after con- sideration of the full record and of the demeanor of the witnesses, the under- signed is convinced and finds that the statement ascribed to Duncan, if credited, would not be sufficient to warrant a finding of a violation of Section 8 (1) of the Act's On February 23, 1945, Ronald E. Greene, construction engineer for the Re- spondent, instructed his assistant, Simon Roth, supervisory engineer, to tell the supervisors of the Construction Engineering Department'' to assemble the em- ployees in the Customers' Service Division auditorium at 3: 30 p. in Since clos- ing time for these employees was 4: 30 or 4: 45 it is clear that the meeting was held during working time. Approximately 160 employees, practically the full number, attended the meeting which was addressed by Greene A CIO meeting for these same employees, as Greene admitting knowing before he called them together, had been set for 5: 30 that afternoon. Greene testified that he had spoken to Respondent's president, James W. Parker, prior to the meeting telling him that an attempt was being made to organize the group and that he thought he "should talk to members of that group and tell them [his] belief." He also told Parker "in a general way" what lie proposed to say to the employees. Par- ker fully corroborated this testimony by Greene and stated further that he "made no objection" either to the calling of the meeting or to the content of the proposed speech. Employee William K Wilkinson, who was active in CIO organizational activi- ties, heard of the meeting and that "Greene would address the group in regard to union matters." Wilkinson arranged to leave his woi k and attend He stationed himself "back of the curtain" and took longhand notes of Greene's speech. His original notes are a part of the records in this proceeding. Greene gave full testimony as to what he said. He spoke from notes and no record of his speech was made. The following summary of Greene's address has been drawn from his testimony somewhat annotated and abridged : I opened the meeting by stating that I wanted to talk to them about unions I said I knew at least one union, the CIO, was soliciting their membership. I did not know what others were, and I told them that the meeting was in no way to be considered as pressure. I told them that was not Company policy, to exert pressure in such matters, and fuitheriiloie, I knew it wasn't =b Matter of Jasper Wood Products Co. Inc, 63 N. L. R. B 333. 21 This Department had been known as the Drafting and Engineering Bureau DETROIT EDISON COMPANY permitted. I did say that I believed I could state my opinions and I was going to do so. I [told] them it wasn't mandatory or it wasn't necessary for anyone to belong to any union to work for the Company. I said that when we did have contracts that at least up to date the type . . . was the maintenance of membership, which means that a man who joined the union had to remain in good standing as a condition of employment for the period of one year. it did not mean that everybody had to belong to the union I then described to them the system that we were working under in the [Department], the supervisory system. I told them that there had to be liaison between Management and the employees First, the Management orders had to be transmitted down and furthermore there had to be a means by which employees could make complaints, suggestions, to the Management. I said the Company prepared that system and was doing its best to make it work. The Company was conducting classes, courses, for the instruction of supervisors and intended to do more of that in the future. If, however, the employees decided that that type of system did not give them what they wanted, they were free to choose some form of organization. "Open to you are these; First you have one of the gational unions, the CIO or the AFL, which have units in the Company. Second, you have the possi- bility of the [Association]" and I made it very clear that that organization was not Company sponsored. As far as I knew they had not been certified Third, you have an independent Draftsmen Union of which there are units' in 2 local concerns. If you decided to choose any of them it seems to me there'are certain' fundamental things to be considered. First, are they, the people you are going to associate with your kind of people ; 1 e engineers and draftsmen? Were the officers qualified by educational background and experience to handle your affairs? Obviously they should decide whether they were qualified to handle their affairs. If they did join a Union they would no longer be able to act as individuals and conduct their own affairs as individuals. There would bean attempt to standardize working conditions. In my belief our working conditions were excellent and would not be bettered by legislation. In my opinion, further- more, some form of seniority would be set up. As an individual I would'i certainly prefer to progress in accordance with my own merits Obviously, the decision is in your own hands. I will be glad to answer any question.28 Wilkinson's notes, in general, corroborate Greene's testimony. They reflect that Greene said : "I have had considerable contact with unions lately and I believe it creates natural antagonism between management and employee," and again, "Organization will tend to lessen the close relationship between the em- ployee and the Management and set up a barrier between them. It would be more unfortunate in this group than others " These notes further indicate that Greene disavowed any intent to put pressure on the employees or coerce their decision and, that in concluding, he expressed willingness to abide by their decision. The degree of divergence between Greene's and Wilkinson's statements is not great and is easily explicable when the conditions under which the two accounts 28 Greene testified that, while he did not remember the questions asked, he was sure that he did not add to his speech in the answeis given 755420-48-vol. 74-21 304 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARI> were compiled is borne in mind. Accepting arguendo the worst construction which the record justifies placing on Greene's remarks the undersigned is per- suaded and finds that they do not transcend limits which the Board and the Courts find permissable under the doctrine of freedom of speech. This finding is con- firmed on consideration of the attendant circumstances. The Respondent had manifested no anti-union attitude and made no threats of economic reprisals. The employees may be inferred to have had knowledge of the contractual relations existing with both AFL and CIO unions. The Respondent had informed each of the employees, asset forth hereinafter, in carefully phrased memoranda, of its intention not to interfere in union matters. This record reflects no anti-union actions or utterances which were inspired or approved by the Respondent. In this state of the record the undersigned finds no merit in the contention of the Board that Greene's address to the employees of his department was in derogation of Section 8 (1) of the Act.° The Board further contends that the Respondent allowed the Association to conduct its affairs in- working time, freely using Respondent's facilities, while denying CIO protagonists similar freedom of action. The record reflects that Employee Henrietta Kernan, a switchboard operator, had been instructed early in 1945 by her supervisor, Harry Smith, that she should not discuss unions, speci- fying the CIO, over the telephone on company time and property. At approxi- mately the same time Smith told Kernan that she had been making a great many mistakes in her work and asked her if her CIO affiliations could be interfering with her work. Kernan replied that she did not think so. Miss Kernan freely admitted that she had discussed unionization over the Respondent's phone lines with mein in the field from the time she went on the switchboard late in 1943, until taken to task by Smith. Her credited testimony pertinent in that connection reads, I discussed [unionization] with everyone,-the person sitting next to me, the outsider over the telephone ; the dispatchers discussed it. We discussed the merits of the association, whether or not the association would ever become a certified bargaining agent. We discussed the differ- ence between the association and the CIO, whether or not the AFL was really a utility organization or whether or not it was a Trade union. Kernan admitted that Smith's admonition was fully justified. It was her credited testimony that she told him, "I thought that was perfectly all right, perfectly fair." Kernan further testified that she had observed Employee Wanda Sheehy, a clerk in the Customers' Service Division, on two occasions after August 1944 typing on letter heads of the Association during working time. Kernan had :i See Matter of Ebco Manufacturing Co , 67 N L. R. B. 210 (April 10, 1946) The Board found that a letter, similar in character to Greene's speech, in the absence of other co- ercive conduct, was not violative of the Act. In the Matter of Oval Wood Dish Corp 62 N L. R. B 1129, 1138, (July 4, 1945) The Board said : By . . . statements, notices, letters, and speeches, the respondent expressed a preference to deal directly with its employees rather than through an outside organization. However, the respondent made no threat of any sort and coupled its statement of preference with clear expressions assuring the employees that the respondent would not resort to reprisal to retaliate against any exercise of any right guaranteed in the Act Under the doctrine of the American Tube Bending case, such conduct falls within the constitutional guarantee of free speech and is not a violation of the Act. Cf American Tube Bending Co. V. N. L. R. B., 134 F. (2d) 993 (Cl. C. 4. 2), cert. denied. 320 U. S. 768. N. L. R. B. v. Virginia Electric and Power Co., 314 U. S. 469. DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 305 no knowledge of the matter typed on either occasion. Sheehy was the regular stenographer and clerk for the Association. However, Currell testified that he was sure Sheehy had done no Association work on company premises. The identification of Association letterheads by Kernan is doubtful since she testified that the Association emblem appeared thereon whereas the official letterheads did not carry it. In any case the mere fact that Sheehy had such letterheads in her machine cannot be held to constitute proof that she was engaged in Association, business. A former employee, Eugene Stanton, as a Board witness, testified that, while• employed by the Respondent, sometime in 1944, Employee Earl Hoetcher had' solicited him to join the Association saying, "Why not join?" and "You'll be, forced to join." Stanton at the time was chief steward for the CIO in the, Customers' Service Division Stanton testified that the incident occurred in, the presence of Foreman Arthur Martin, of the Gratiot office. Hoetcher was' working at the time but Stanton was awaiting an assignment. Martin took no part in the conversation with Hoetcher. However, as Stanton also testified, Martin at a time, not definitely fixed in the record, but stated to have been in 1944, told him that it was against company rules to solicit (CIO) membership on company time or company premises. Employee Martin J. O'Dell, president of CIO Local 223, testified that in early May 1944, together with Edward T. Shedlock, an International Representative of the CIO, he interviewed Ronald E. Greene, construction engineer and Kaufmann, Union relations adviser for the Respondent, relative to posting CIO matters on bulletin boards in the plant. Greene and Kaufmann informed the CIO officials that they would check into the ]natter. Later O'Dell was informed that CIO "meeting notices were controversial" and could only be posted in departments where the CIO was recognized as the statutory representative.a0 O'Dell pointed out that Association notices were permitted on Respondent's bulletin boards but made no further complaints.31 Wilkinson, as he testified, made a similar request of Kaufmann "early in 1944" complaining that Association literature and notices were posted on company premises while the CIO was refused like privileges. Kaufmann pointed out that the Association was posting notices pertaining to social affairs and suggested that if CIO meetings were social affairs notices might be posted. Wilkinson replied flippantly, "that was a thought." Later Wilkinson remonstrated to Paul Herd- man, superintendent of building operations, that notices of Association's dances were posted on the building pillars. Herdman replied, as had Kaufmann, that all organizations were allowed to post notices regarding social affairs Wilkinson agreed that the CIO was not discriminated against in the use of recreational and social facilities 82 The -Respondent placed in evidence its Company Memorandum No. 105 issued on May 19, 1944, over the signature of President and General Manager Parker. This memorandmn was published in the June issue of Respondent's monthly magazine, Synchroscope, which is regularly mailed to every employee. The memorandum deals generally with the Respondent's policies, "regarding the S0 O'Dell testified that all CIO contracts negotiated with the Respondent provided for the posting of CIO notices on Respondent's bulletin boards 11 Kaufmann testified that he had had several conferences with O'Dell and Shedlock Of O'Dell's testimony he stated, "I am not able to affirm nor deny it, but I believe his testi- mony was accurate." 92 These findings rely on credited testimony by Wilkinson. It was not denied by Kaufmann. Herdman was not called as a witness. 306 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD use by employee groups of company property, facilities, and services." The essential paragraphs read : In general, it is a well-known and long-established practice to supply em- ploye groups, organized as clubs, associations, and technical societies, with facilities reasonable to the use and need of such organizations. The purpose of such groups is generally of a recreational, charitable, educational, or social nature Notices, bulletins, publications, and publicity in connection therewith have also at times been furnished when appropriate and reason- able This practice has been eminently satisfactory and there is no reason to change it. A review of this matter raises the question as to whether such practice should be extended to groups of employes wishing to meet to discuss or act among themselves upon matters incident to collective bargaining. It is the Company's belief that decisions as to the appropriateness of holding such meeting on Company property might in some cases, unintentionally lead to lack of impartial treatment as between groups, or at least have the appearance of such. It is the intent of the Company that there shall be entire equality of treatment of employe groups engaged in collective bargaining activities. As has been said many times before, the Company has no desire to influence the choice of employes in the matter of representation or nonrepresentation for the purpose of collective bargaining or as to any particular agent or form of agency to be used and believes that such policy is for the best interest of both the employes and the Company. Accordingly, no use of the Company's premises shall be approved for the purpose of effecting organization for collective bargaining, Union business meetings, or other related activities, likewise, printing, publication and simi- lar services in connection with such activities will not be permitted. The Company withholds these services reluctantly, especially since the time and expense involved are relatively minor. However, there is no other choice in the matter, because in extending these facilities, the appearance of special benefits or the endorsement of one organization or another might be unin- tentionally created. This policy does not prohibit the granting of a reasonable use of bulletin boards for the posting of notices involving no controversial matter, as for instance meeting notices. Such privileges have already been extended to all organizations. Also, permission may, upon application, be given to any employe organization or group, when reasonable and appropriate, to use the Company's property, facilities, or services for such purposes as are purely educational, recreational, charitable, or social. The Respondent further placed in evidence a letter dated August 23, 1941, from Alex Dow, who had retired as president in the preceding year and had become Chairman of the Executive Committee of the Board of Directors. Dow wrote to "All Company Employees " Under date of May, 1944, President Parker also published a statement "for the Guidance of Department Heads, Foremen and other Supervisors on the Company's Labor Policy " These documents are too lengthy for inclusion here. The general character of Parker's statement, which reached all employees through publication in Respondent's monthly publi- cation, the Synchroscope, may be indicated by brief excerpts. Mr. Dow said many times that any employee or group of employees was entitled to a fair hearing and that if they wanted to bring some one along to do their talking they would be accorded similarly fair hearing. That DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 307 is also the company's present attitude. We will deal willingly with organi- zations, with informal groups or with individual employees. Collective bargaining has brought about some changes in our practices, notably a greater exactness and a more meticulous uniformity in the treat- ment of individual employes within each group. That is in fulfillment of a desire of the employes. We shall be careful to cooperate in the principle of collective bargaining, to which we have subscribed, by avoiding any act that might undermine or discredit those employes who have been selected to deal with us. We shall, however, resist unfairness and combat attempts to create a break in the friendship and confidence between the Company and its employes. In appraising the Board's contention that the Respondent favored the Associa- tion and discriminated against the CIO in allowing use of its facilities, it is necessary to understand the conditions under which the employees work. Many of them in the Customers' Service Division do their work on the customer's premises. They work there without supervision. In receiving assignments and traveling thereto, their time is much broken up. Certain employees work as emergency standby men. They are on call and have slight or no prescribed duties while awaiting such emergency calls. The record reflects that they are customarily allowed freedom of action and discussion while in such standby status Similarly in the use of telephone facilities the employees have exercised great freedom in discussing both personal affairs and labor organizational mat- ters. On this subject certain testimony by Kaufmann is helpful. He was asked about Respondent's practice in allowing use of intercommunication facilities and answered, On that . . . the Company has practically no means of control We know ; we cannot prove it, but we know that some telephones are used for talk among the men which is pretty largely Union business. We have no way of controlling that. We have an understanding, and it is so stipulated in the contracts, that Union affairs will not be discussed on Company time and prop- erty to the extent that work is interfered with. Now, we believe that is about as far as we can go. If an organization comes and says, We want to use the interdepartmental mailing system for [the union] we say no, but, if on the other hand, they would surreptitiously slide on that into the inter-department mailing system, we couldn't tell be- cause employees are working on Company business there and we have no way of knowing, without inspecting the mail. We have not felt any of the Company facilities have been abused, however. Q If you did find such abuses, what would you do? A We would stop it We have occasionally said to the C I. 0. that they were making a little free with Company time, and they have taken it in very good spirit and said they would look into it and see that it is discon- tinued. It is the Company's policy to do it, so that there are no favors shown to any party. The undersigned, after considering the full record, finds the evidence adduced by the Board as to discriminatory treatment favorable to the Association unsub- stantial and not convincing. It is clear that the Club, in common with other social and recreational organizations, made free use of Respondent's facilities and frequently carried on its activities in working time. The record convinces the undersigned, and he finds, that with the organization of the Association, both 308 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD that union and the Respondent made sincere and effective efforts to follow the policy laid down in Respondent's memorandum of May 19, 1944. It is clearly reflected by the record that Respondent's supervisors had been effectively in- structed to abstain from interference in union matters. Thus, Foreman Tremper's credited testimony regarding his advice to Employee Joiner reads : Well, upon his request for advice, I informed him that it was something that I simply couldn't advise him on at all ; he would have to handle it en- tirely himself. Asked by Respondent's counsel why he had so answered Joiner, Tremper re- plied : Because the management of our company has made it very clear that labor and union problems were not to be discussed by supervisors in any way what- - soever. Therefore, when this matter came up, the very first thought that was in my mind was that it was something that I must keep my hands off of. After consideration of the record and the demeanor of the witnesses the un- dersigned finds that the Board has not proven that the Respondent interfered with, restrained, and coerced its employees within the meaning of Section 8 (1) of the Act. Accordingly he will recommend that so much of the complaint as alleges the commission of such an unfair labor practice be dismissed. CONCLUSIONS OF LAW 1. Utility Workers Union of America, CIO, Local 223, and Detroit Edison'Em- ployees Association are labor organizations within the meaning of Section 2 (5) of the Act. 2. The Respondent has not interfered with, restrained, or coerced its employees in the exercise of rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act. 3 The respondent has not dominated or interfered with the formation or ad- ministration of the Association nor contributed financial or other support to it within the meaning of Section 8 (2) of the Act. 4. The Respondent is engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2 (6) and (7) of the Act. RECOMMENDATIONS Upon the basis of the foregoing findings of fact and conclusions of law, the undersigned hereby recommends that the complaint against the Detroit Edison Company be dismissed in its entirety. As provided in Section 33 of Article II of the Rules and Regulations of the National Labor Relations Board, Series 3, as amended, effective November 27, 1945, any party or counsel for the Board may. Within fifteen (15) days from the date of the entry of the order transferring the case to the Board. pursuant to Section 32 of Article II of said Rules and Regulations, file with the Board, Rochambeau Building, Washington 25, D C., an original and four copies of a statement in writing, setting forth such exceptions to the Intermediate Report or to any other part of the record or proceeding (including rulings upon all motions or objections) as he relies upon, together with the original and four copies of a brief in support thereof Immediately upon the filing of such statement of ex- ceptions and/or brief, the party or counsel for the Board filing the same shall serve a copy thereof upon each of the other parties and shall file a copy with the Regional Director. As further provided in said Section 33, should any party desire permission to argue orally before the Board, request therefor must be made n DETROIT EDISON COMPANY 309 in writing to the Board within ten (10) days from the date of the order trans- ferring the case to the Board. Any party desiring to submit a brief in support of the Intermediate Report shall do so within fifteen (15) days from the date of the entry of the order transferring the case to the Board, by filing with the Board an original and four copies thereof, and by immediately serving a copy thereof upon each of the other parties and the Regional Director. CHARLES E. PERSONS, Trial Examiner. Dated July 16, 1946. Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation