NEWBLATT, J.

On January 16, 1967, the United States Supreme Court decided both Garrity v. New Jersey (1967), 385 U.S. 493 ( 87 S Ct 616, 17 L Ed 2d 562), and Spevack v. Klein (1967), 385 U.S. 551 ( 87 S Ct 626, 17 L Ed 2d 574). In Garrity the Court held that confessions of police officers made during an investigation conducted by the attorney general of the state of New Jersey into certain irregularities in the courts of that state were inadmissible in the subsequent criminal trials of the officers for the offenses being investigated. Before the officers testified in the investigation they had been advised that refusal to answer would subject them to removal from office under a New Jersey statute. The Court reasoned that they had been coerced to give up their rights to remain silent and that such coercion rendered the confessions involuntary barring their use against the officers in the subsequent criminal proceedings. In Spevack, the Court held that an attorney could not be disbarred for refusal to testify at a proceeding to discipline him as a member of the New York bar. His refusal to testify was on the grounds that such testimony may have tended to incriminate him. The Court reasoned that the protection afforded by the self-incrimination clause of the Fifth Amendment as applied to the states by the Fourteenth Amendment could not be rendered ineffective by permitting disbarment as the price for exercising the privilege.

It is upon the principles enunciated in these two cases that the case at bar must be decided. Here the defendants are all police officers of the city of Detroit who were subpoenaed to testify before the Honorable Edward S. Piggins acting as the so-called "one man grand jury" conducting an investigation under CL 1948, § 767.3, as amended by PA 1965, No 251 (Stat Ann 1968 Cum Supp § 28.943) into crimes dealing with bribery and other corruption of public officials, vice, and gambling. When the defendants appeared and testified, each was advised of his constitutional right to remain silent. Most were asked whether they knew about a particular restaurant and as to the receipt of bribes from two named persons. Upon denials, they were interrogated relating to receipt of gifts and gratuities from bar owners and liquor licensees in the city of Detroit. They were not questioned as to whether such gratuities were received as bribes or as consideration for omission to perform duties. Following their testimony, defendants were arrested upon grand juror-issued warrants and arraigned upon charges of perjury based upon the answers to the questions before the grand juror. Preliminary examinations were held on August 15, 16, and 17, 1966 and the examining magistrate, over defendants' objections, received in evidence the questions and answers before the grand juror. Defendants' objections were based upon the claim that allowing such evidence denied them their rights under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. They further objected claiming that the questions asked were not material to the inquiry. Defendants were bound over for trial upon additional evidence consisting of testimony from bar owners and operators that defendants had in fact received gifts and gratuities contrary to their testimony before the grand juror. Motions prior to trial to quash the information and dismiss the perjury charges were made and denied. From the orders of denial leave to appeal has been granted.

Another series of facts must be taken note of prior to considering the parties' theories and discussing the applicability of the Garrity and Spevack holdings. Defendants, by way of affidavits in support of their motions before the lower court, asserted that they believed that if they had invoked the privilege of remaining silent, they would have been suspended from the police department; that their beliefs in this regard were based upon opinion no. 1863 of the attorney general dated November 18, 1954 indicating removal under such circumstances would be justified. The defendants' beliefs as to suspension and removal were also based, according to their affidavits, upon information they had received prior to their appearances that the special grand jury prosecutor had, during the questioning of another police officer in the grand jury proceedings, told that officer that, anyone who refused to testify would in fact be removed.

Now to the issue of whether Garrity and Spevack apply. Since they appear to apply prima facie, it is more appropriate to examine the people's claim that they do not. The people's main assertion is that Garrity and Spevack give no immunity from perjury; that the officers in this case had two choices: (1) they could have told the truth and challenged subsequent criminal prosecution for bribery on the theory that their admissions were coerced; or (2) they could have claimed the privilege, refused to testify and then challenged a subsequent dismissal from the police department on the theory that the claiming of the privilege to remain silent is not sufficient grounds for removal or dismissal. It is an essential part of the people's theory that the third alternative of committing perjury was not available to the defendants for even a denial of constitutional rights cannot constitute a license to commit perjury.

That argument has a number of answers, all of which emphasize that the perjury distinction upon which the position is founded is without merit. The people say that the only justification for prosecution here in the face of Garrity is that the answers of the defendants are false. So, assuming falsity, the prosecution commences. Just as the consequences of coercion or other violation of a constitutional right most frequently are raised in the context of a challenge to the admissibility of evidence, so here the issue is whether the questions and answers before the grand juror are admissible in the perjury prosecution. To determine admissibility (and to distinguish from Garrity), the people claim the testimony is false, precisely what the prosecution intends to ultimately prove. So for purposes of admissibility, the people assume falsity, one of the ultimate issues to be subsequently determined at trial. Clearly, indulging in such an assumption cannot be allowed for it would destroy the presumption of innocence.

Equally devastating to the people's theory is the fact that although it is stated in terms of an exception to Garrity for perjury, more precisely stated, it would be asserting an exception to Garrity where the prosecuting authority charges perjury (as distinguished from the substantive offense of bribery). It is as if the people are saying:

"When we charge the substantive offense, Garrity applies and when we charge perjury it does not."

Under our system the prosecuting authority is not authorized to nullify a constitutional right by drawing such a gossamer distinction.

To hold that the Garrity principle does not apply to a case where perjury is charged would violate another recognized and fundamental principle of constitutional application — that one cannot justify a violation or an invasion of a constitutional right by what such invasion reveals. United States v. DiRe (1948), 332 U.S. 581 ( 68 S Ct 222, 92 L Ed 210); United States v. Como (CA2, 1965), 340 F.2d 891.

Garrity and Spevack furnish the principles that apply to the doctrine of waiver of the right to refuse to incriminate oneself. Of course, what one reveals as a result of a waiver is of no import in determining whether the waiver was voluntary or coerced. If the waiver was coerced, the result thereof cannot be received in evidence. As a matter of fact this whole question of whether perjury prosecution is excluded from the Garrity-Spevack principle has already been concisely decided in Garrity where the majority's holding was:

"* * * We now hold the protection of the individual under the Fourteenth Amendment against coerced statements prohibits use in subsequent criminal proceedings of statements obtained under threat of removal from office, and that it extends to all, whether they are policemen or other members of our body politic." (Italics supplied).

The prosecution's theory is based on United States v. Miller (ED Pa, 1948), 80 F. Supp. 979, and United States v. Winter (CA 2, 1965), 348 F.2d 204. We now hold that neither case is authority for the position of the people here. In Miller, the defendant was being prosecuted for alleged perjury in his testimony before a Federal grand jury and sought to dismiss the indictment on the basis that the prosecution violated his Fifth Amendment rights. He had originally testified before the grand jury as a witness and was advised prior to his testimony that he had the privilege of refusing to answer any questions which would tend to be self-incriminating. Nevertheless he answered and was subsequently charged. The people rely upon the language of Judge Ganey, found p 982:

"* * * Under the circumstances of this case the defendant may not now seek the protection of the Fifth Amendment. The immunity afforded by that Amendment relates to past deeds. `It is not a license to the person testifying to commit perjury.' * * *

"A witness has the option of telling the truth or furnishing himself protection by remaining silent when his answers might tend to be self-incriminating. He may not, without leaving behind him the bulwark of the Fifth Amendment, provide himself, and incidentally others, greater protection by knowingly testifying falsely. At the hearing before the first grand jury, the defendant, upon being advised of his constitutional privilege, could have, but did not, refuse to testify. A subsequently empaneled grand jury has concluded that there was sufficient evidence to find an indictment charging him with perjury. He must at least plead to that charge."

This case and the above language cannot support the people's position here if in fact the defendants were coerced by fear and threats of job forfeiture to waive the privilege of refusing to answer. No basis to vitiate a waiver of the privilege, such as coercion, duress or fraud existed in Miller. Winter likewise affords little support for the people's position. The defendant there was charged with perjury resulting from his testimony before a Federal grand jury. The attack upon the conviction was made on the ground that the defendant was not advised prior to his entering the grand jury room that he had a right to consult with counsel and that such advice was required under the Sixth Amendment. The court held that even if the defendant were entitled to such advice before entering the grand jury, omission so to advise him is "no defense to a charge that he thereafter perjured himself in the grand jury room". Like Miller and unlike the case at bar, in Winter there was absolutely no claim of coercion of, nor any duress or fraud worked upon, the defendant to either testify or give up his right to counsel under the Sixth Amendment.

To make the distinction even more emphatic, Winter referred to and relied upon another case decided by the same circuit, United States v. Remington (1953), 208 F.2d 567, which in turn relied upon United States v. Williams (1951), 341 U.S. 58 ( 71 S Ct 595, 95 L Ed 747), neither of which is authority for the people's position here. Remington held that one who gave false testimony in a trial upon an indictment subsequently invalidated nevertheless is subject to prosecution and Williams held similarly that one who testified falsely at trial upon an indictment later determined to be invalid as stating no offense was still subject to perjury prosecution. Patently, neither case supports the claim that a statement given as a result of a coerced waiver of Fifth Amendment rights can be the basis for a perjury prosecution.

The conclusion is, therefore, compelled that the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments' benefits of freedom from coerced waiver of the right to remain silent, whether they pertain to a previously convicted felon, ordinary or extraordinary citizen or a police officer must be respected for the protection of each one and all of us. Coercion can be worked upon the least among us or upon the most — merely the techniques differ. Our generation bears witness with sadness, torment and fear to the terrors and dangers that the techniques of psychological coercion pose for civilization. Psychological coercion, brain washing, if you will, has proven to be as effective, if not a more effective, weapon for dominating the human spirit than physical bestiality. The legitimate exercise of the coercive power of government must never be asserted to defeat, nor upheld when in conflict with, the rights of individual man to be free from such coercion when determining whether to exercise a constitutional right. Government repression is the sad, but certain result of this type of false syllogistic argument of the people for if coercion can be ignored so easily by such word play, coercion without such word play and false justification is lurking nearby.

The people claim a distinction between Garrity and the case at bar in that in Garrity removal from the police department was mandatory if the privilege was asserted while in Michigan, the attorney general had only ruled that removal would be justified. Again the people are asserting a technical distinction that in truth exists, but has no vitality when dealing with a question of whether officers were in fact coerced. The plain and simple claim before this Court, agreed to by counsel, is that the grand jury prosecutor had threatened an officer with removal if the privilege was asserted; that this threat was transmitted to and was within the knowledge of these defendants who were also aware of the attorney general's opinion and that these defendants felt coerced by such threats. If true, their testimony would have been the result of an involuntary waiver and whether the removal was merely justified or made mandatory can have no force. Coercion is coercion and cases cannot be so narrowly limited to the facts when the principles enunciated are so clearly applicable. The people argue that there is no showing that these defendants were threatened with discharge. The defendants' claims of coercion are based upon the affidavits which were made a part of the agreed statement of facts. Although made a part of the agreed statement of facts, it is clear that these affidavits were not filed in sufficient time before the lower court to have been considered either by the trial judge in denying the defendants' motions to quash or to permit the people to contest the content thereof. Since the trial court did not rest its decision upon a finding of voluntariness of the defendants' testimony before the grand juror, it cannot now be held that the people have had an opportunity for an evidentiary hearing on that issue. This opportunity must be afforded. The case will therefore be remanded for an evidentiary hearing under People v. Walker (On Rehearing, 1965), 374 Mich. 331.

As to the claim of the defendants that the questions asked as to which the alleged false answers were given, were not material to the inquiry, there is no doubt that questions as to the receipt of gratuities by officers, although imprecisely asked and possibly vague, were pertinent to the grand jury inquiry into crimes of bribery of public officials for purposes of securing their failure to perform their duties.

Reversed and remanded.

T.G. KAVANAGH, P.J., and LEVIN, J., concurred.