SAAD, P.J.

I. Nature of the Case

In this age-based employment discrimination case, plaintiff seeks to overturn the jury's verdict because of the trial court's evidentiary ruling made pursuant to defendants' motion in limine. Defendants asked the trial court to exclude the statement "out with the old and in with the new" made by plaintiff's former supervisor. Plaintiff contends that this is an ageist statement that constitutes direct evidence that she was fired because of her age as part of defendants' plan to terminate older employees and replace them with younger employees. Conversely, defendants claim that the remark is irrelevant because it (1) is ambiguous, (2) was an isolated remark, (3) was made long before plaintiff's termination, and (4) was made by a manager who had no involvement in plaintiff's termination. Further, defendant says that any possible relevancy of this remark is substantially outweighed by its potential prejudicial effect. The trial court agreed with defendants' position and ruled the proffered evidence inadmissible.

Because this precise issue has not been addressed by our appellate courts in a published opinion, this narrow issue is one of first impression and one on which we will seek guidance from federal precedent. Accordingly, we have reviewed a line of authority from the federal courts known as stray remarks cases. The federal courts in these employment discrimination cases assess the relevancy of stray remarks by reviewing the following factors: (1) Were the disputed remarks made by the decisionmaker or by an agent of the employer uninvolved in the challenged decision? (2) Were the disputed remarks isolated or part of a pattern of biased comments? (3) Were the disputed remarks made close in time or remote from the challenged decision? (4) Were the disputed remarks ambiguous or clearly reflective of discriminatory bias? We hold that our courts should review these factors in ruling on the relevancy of similar comments, and we further hold that, here, the trial court properly excluded the disputed remark.

II. Facts and Proceedings

Defendant Sedgwick James of Michigan, Inc., hired plaintiff as an executive secretary in April 1981. Plaintiff held several positions while at the company and, in 1995, became senior vice president of human resources while continuing to work as an executive secretary. During her employment, plaintiff worked under various supervisors, including Michael Rastigue, who was managing executive for Sedgwick James of Michigan during the early to mid-1990s. In February 1993, Rastigue hired a group of employees, including defendant Mark Miller, from a competing firm, Marsh McClennan. Miller later took over Rastigue's job as managing executive in July 1995, after Rastigue transferred to another office.

After company executives discovered that Sedgwick James of Michigan was operating at a significant financial deficit, Miller terminated the employment of plaintiff, along with the employment of several other employees, as part of a downsizing effort in June 1996. Following her dismissal, plaintiff filed this age discrimination claim against Miller, Sedgwick James of Michigan, and its parent company, Sedgwick James, Inc. Plaintiff, fifty-seven years old at the time her employment was terminated, alleged that defendants fired her because of her age in violation of the Michigan Civil Rights Act, MCL 37.2101 et seq.; MSA 3.548(101) et seq.

Before trial, defendants filed a motion in limine to exclude certain potential evidence, including Rastigue's remark "out with the old and in with the new." According to plaintiff's deposition testimony, Rastigue made this comment in reference to the new group of employees hired from Marsh McClennan. The trial court granted defendants' motion to exclude the remark, but did not articulate its reasons for doing so on the record. That is, the trial court did not specify whether it excluded the proffered evidence as irrelevant or as more prejudicial than probative.

At trial, plaintiff presented evidence of her qualifications and history with Sedgwick James of Michigan as well as statistical evidence regarding the companies' termination of employment of employees over the age of forty. In response, defendants presented several present and former employees of the Sedgwick James companies who testified about financial problems in the Michigan office resulting, in part, from the expense of highly paid employees who were performing low-level work. The defense witnesses further testified that personnel changes and reorganization were necessary for Sedgwick James of Michigan to remain in operation.

Defense witnesses testified that, despite these changes, the company continued to lose money and executives determined that significant revenue could be saved by transferring the accounting and human resources functions of Sedgwick James of Michigan to the Chicago office, thereby eliminating several positions, including plaintiff's. The defense witnesses denied plaintiff's allegation that plaintiff's age was a factor in their decision to terminate her employment. The jury apparently accepted defendants' business reasons for the termination of plaintiff's employment and returned a verdict of no cause of action.

III. Analysis A. Standard of Review

Plaintiff avers that the trial court's exclusion of Rastigue's comment so prejudiced her case that the jury's verdict should be reversed. Our courts are reluctant to overturn a jury's verdict, particularly if there is ample evidence to justify the jury's decision, and we will not do so on the basis of an erroneous evidentiary ruling unless refusal to take this action would be inconsistent with substantial justice. MCR 2.613(A); MRE 103(a); Chmielewski v Xermac, Inc, 216 Mich. App. 707, 710-711; 550 N.W.2d 797 (1996), aff'd 457 Mich. 593; 580 N.W.2d 817 (1998). It is well established that this Court reviews a trial court's evidentiary rulings for an abuse of discretion and, in making that determination, we consider the facts on which the trial court acted to determine whether an unprejudiced person "would say that there is no justification or excuse for the ruling made." Roulston v Tendercare (Michigan), Inc, 239 Mich. App. 270, 282; 608 N.W.2d 525 (2000).

In general, in an employment discrimination case, after the plaintiff establishes a prima facie case, the defendant presents evidence of its legitimate, nondiscriminatory reason for terminating the plaintiff's employment. Kerns v Dura Mechanical Components, Inc (On Remand), 242 Mich. App. 1, 12; 618 N.W.2d 56 (2000). Thereafter, the plaintiff bears the burden of proving that the employer's articulated reason was not the true reason, but rather a mere pretext for discrimination. Wilcoxon v Minnesota Mining Mfg Co, 235 Mich. App. 347, 359; 597 N.W.2d 250 (1999). Here, plaintiff would have presumably offered Rastigue's remark to persuade the jury that defendants' asserted reason for the termination of her employment (financially induced downsizing) was untrue and that her age made a difference in defendants' decision to terminate her employment.

The analysis used to determine the admissibility of an agent's remark is particularly important in this type of employment discrimination case because the central question the jury must decide is not what occurred, but why the action was taken by the employer. Because the controlling issue is motivation (the reason for the decision), courts must be particularly careful in making determinations regarding the relevancy of remarks by agents of corporate defendants. Obviously, remarks indicating bias by the decisionmaker directed at the discharged employee would be highly probative when made at or about the time of the decision. On the other hand, allegedly biased but, in fact, ambiguous remarks by an agent who is not involved in the decision and made remote in time from the decision would hardly be relevant and certainly would be highly prejudicial precisely because motivation is the key issue in this type of employment discrimination case. Thus, our review of whether the remark was properly excluded requires more than merely labeling the comment a "stray remark." The important issues here are whether the employee's remark is relevant to show that the defendant made the employment decision on the basis of plaintiff's age and whether, if relevant, the remark's relevance is substantially outweighed by the risk of unfair prejudice.

B. Relevance

Because a work-related comment may be uttered in myriad factual contexts, a simple definition of an inadmissible stray or isolated remark is not feasible and would not facilitate a proper determination of its relevance at trial. The proffered evidence may range from an innocuous remark made by an employee with no involvement in the alleged adverse employment action long before such action takes place to a blatantly discriminatory comment made by a decisionmaker at the time the adverse action occurs. A trial court's determination of the probative value of a remark depends on where it falls on that continuum. Accordingly, a trial court must consider several factors to determine whether the comment in issue is relevant to show that an employer took the challenged action because of the employee's age. As stated above, because our state courts have not articulated those factors in a published opinion, we look to various federal court decisions for guidance.

C. Stray Remarks Cases

In Cooley v Carmike Cinemas, Inc, 25 F.3d 1325 (CA 6, 1994), the defendant appealed from a jury verdict in favor of the plaintiff and argued that the district court abused its discretion in admitting certain ageist remarks made by the defendant's president. Id. at 1327-1329. In deciding the issue, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals emphasized that the admissibility of the proffered comments require the court to balance the relevancy of the comments against their prejudicial effect. Id. at 1330. The Court reviewed various cases defining stray remarks and set forth several factors to determine the admissibility of statements offered to show an employer's discriminatory bias. Id. at 1330-1331. Specifically, the Court opined:

In age discrimination cases, this court has examined statements allegedly showing employer bias by considering whether the comments were made by a decision maker or by an agent within the scope of his employment; whether they were related to the decision-making process; whether they were more than merely vague, ambiguous, or isolated remarks; and whether they were proximate in time to the act of termination. [ Id. at 1330.]

Other federal courts have considered these factors in a number of procedural contexts to determine the probative value of an agent's remarks. In Lawrence v Syms Corp, 969 F. Supp. 1014 (ED Mich, 1997), the plaintiff attempted to defeat the employer's motion for summary judgment by raising a genuine issue of material fact to rebut the employer's assertion that it had terminated the plaintiff's employment because of poor performance. Id. at 1017. The plaintiff presented his supervisor's comment "that the defendant was `out to get' the oldest store managers who were well paid, and replace them with younger, more energetic people." Id. at 1018. The court concluded that, because the comment was made up to two years before the plaintiff's employment was terminated, it was isolated and remote in time and its meaning was ambiguous. Id. Further, although the plaintiff's supervisor made the comment, no evidence showed that it was related to the decision to discharge the plaintiff. Id. Therefore, the court ruled that the remark did not raise an issue of material fact showing the employer's discriminatory motivation because it was isolated, remote in time, vague, and unrelated to the discharge decision. Id.

In Phelps v Yale Security, Inc, 986 F.2d 1020 (CA 6, 1993), the plaintiff appealed a district court's grant of judgment notwithstanding the verdict in favor of the defendant. At trial, the plaintiff presented evidence that her age was a factor in her dismissal by presenting, among other evidence, comments by her supervisor, Ray McCulloch. Id. at 1025. The plaintiff alleged that, when she was transferred to McCulloch's office from her job as the plant manager's secretary, McCulloch told her she was too old to be the plant manager's secretary and that he later said that her upcoming fifty-fifth birthday "was a cause for concern." Id. In considering whether the manager's remarks established that the defendant was motivated by the plaintiff's age, the court opined:

Age-related comments referring directly to the worker may support an inference of age discrimination. However, as Yale Security argues, isolated and ambiguous comments "`are too abstract, in addition to being irrelevant and prejudicial, to support a finding of age discrimination.'" Because [the manager] made the statements nearly a year before the layoff, the comments were made too long before the layoff to have influenced the termination decision. Moreover, the statement regarding [the plaintiff's] birthday was too ambiguous to establish the necessary inference of age discrimination. [ Id. at 1025-1026 (citations omitted).]

Thus, regardless of the procedural context, federal courts have consistently held that isolated or vague comments made by nondecisionmakers long before the adverse employment decision is made are not probative of an employer's discriminatory motivation. See, also, McDonald v Union Camp Corp, 898 F.2d 1155, 1161, n 3, 1162 (CA 6, 1990) (comment by a person other than the decisionmaker that "a senior salesman at age 55 `could be cheaply replaced with a younger salesman'" does not raise an issue of material fact regarding the employer's motives); Stone v Autoliv ASP, Inc, 210 F.3d 1132, 1140 (CA 10, 2000) (remark that "`at [the plaintiff's] age, it would be difficult to train for another position'" or "`difficult to find a new job'" was insufficient to survive a motion for summary judgment because it was unrelated to the termination decision and was too ambiguous to show discriminatory animus); Shorette v Rite Aid of Maine, Inc, 155 F.3d 8, 13-14 (CA 1, 1998) (inquiry about the plaintiff's age and when he planned to retire, statement that employer could not "afford" to keep the plaintiff employed, and comment that the plaintiff had a "perfect case of age discrimination" were inadmissible to show discriminatory motivation because they were isolated, ambiguous, or not made by the decisionmaker).

We find the factors considered in this line of federal cases useful for our analysis of the relevance of Rastigue's remark "out with the old and in with the new." Accordingly, our first inquiry is whether the proffered comment was made by an agent of the employer involved in the decision to terminate plaintiff's employment. The record shows that, although Rastigue was plaintiff's supervisor at the time he made the comment, he was not her supervisor when she lost her job. Rastigue left his position as an executive manager at Sedgwick James of Michigan approximately one year before plaintiff's employment was terminated, and no evidence suggests that he had any decisionmaking authority regarding the discharging of plaintiff. Miller took over Rastigue's position as executive manager and plaintiff's supervisor in July 1995, and it was Miller who terminated plaintiff's employment in June 1996. Therefore, the proffered remark cannot be attributed to the employer, because it was not made by a person involved in the termination of plaintiff's employment.

Moreover, Rastigue did not make the proffered remark regarding plaintiff. Instead, plaintiff testified that she heard Rastigue make the comment in reference to the new, recently hired employees. Those new employees included defendant Miller who, according to the trial record, joined Sedgwick James of Michigan in February 1993. Further, not only was Rastigue's comment directed at other people, he made it more than two years before plaintiff's employment was terminated by defendants. Accordingly, the comment was both isolated and remote in time from the adverse employment action.

Finally, although plaintiff contends that the comment was age related, we find that, under the circumstances in which Rastigue uttered it, the remark was certainly ambiguous and clearly age neutral. Rastigue made the comment when several new employees began working for the company and no evidence suggests that the employment of other, older employees was terminated at that time or that other employees were somehow replaced by younger workers. In this context, the comment "out with the old and in with the new" does not carry with it a discriminatory connotation.

Therefore, considering the factors outlined above, the trial court did not abuse its discretion in excluding this evidence. Indeed, the trial court would have been correct to hold this evidence to be irrelevant.

D. Prejudicial Effect

We recognize that in employment discrimination cases, a plaintiff's obligation to show the employer's true motivation is often a difficult task. To counter the employer's reasons for the termination of a plaintiff's employment, the plaintiff must introduce evidence of what the plaintiff believes to be the "true" (illicit) motivation. Wilcoxon, supra at 359. To show that motivation, a plaintiff may attempt to introduce biased remarks by one or more of the employer's agents. Yet, as stated above, some remarks may be extremely probative while others are wholly irrelevant. If the proffered evidence is determined to have some bearing on the employer's motivation, however, it is imperative that the trial court balance its probative value against the risk of unfair prejudice. MRE 403.

Remarks made by a single employee that are offered to show a discriminatory motive by a defendant corporation involve a particularly high risk of unfair prejudice. A biased comment by a company agent is especially inflammatory because of the jury's tendency to attribute an agent's comments to the company itself, regardless of whether the agent was involved in the adverse employment action at issue and regardless of whether the remark reflects or repudiates company policy. The risk of admitting evidence of a biased opinion made by an employee who is unrelated to the decisionmaking process is that, even if the remark is isolated, ambiguous, or remote in time, it unfairly suggests to the jury that the remark and its underlying motivation have the imprimatur of the employer.

Thus, were we to find that Rastigue's comment had some minimal relevance in light of the four factors discussed above, its probative value would have been substantially outweighed by "the harm likely to result from its admission." Cooley, supra at 1330; MRE 403. Because the ambiguous and isolated remark had nothing to do with the termination of plaintiff's employment and was made by a former supervisor remote in time from when plaintiff's employment was terminated, its admission would have served only to inflame, mislead, or confuse the jury. Moreover, its admission would have impermissibly induced the jury to attribute the remark to defendants, even though the evidence failed to show that defendants, considered plaintiff's age in their decision to terminate her employment. In brief, this irrelevant evidence would have been highly inflammatory.

Accordingly, we find that the trial court did not abuse its discretion by excluding Rastigue's remark. Further, in reviewing the four factors discussed above, we find that the disputed evidence is irrelevant. Finally, were we to find minimal relevancy in the "stray remark," we further hold that this disputed evidence was substantially more prejudicial than probative.

Affirmed.