Evolution Mechanical Services, Inc., and Murray Mechanical Services

National Labor Relations Board - Board Decisions

Jan 27, 2014

360 N.L.R.B. 164 (N.L.R.B. 2014)

164 DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
360 NLRB No. 33
Evolution Mechanical Services, Inc., and Murray
Mechanical Services, Inc. and Sheet Metal
Workers’ International Association, Local Un-
ion 105, AFL–CIO. Case 21–CA–039887
January 27, 2014
DECISION AND ORDER
BY MEMBERS MISCIMARRA, HIROZAWA, AND SCHIFFER
On March 19, 2013, Administrative Law Judge Wil-
liam L. Schmidt issued the attached decision. The Re-
spondent, Evolution Mechanical Services, Inc. and Mur-
ray Mechanical Services, Inc., filed exceptions and a
supporting brief. The General Counsel filed an answer-
ing brief.
The National Labor Relations Board has delegated its
authority in this proceeding to a three-member panel.
The Board has considered the decision and the record
in light of the exceptions and briefs and has decided to
affirm the judge’s rulings, findings,1 and conclusions and
to adopt the recommended Order.
We agree with the judge, essentially for the reasons he
stated, that the Respondent unlawfully discharged em-
ployee Robert Schoepfer because it believed, erroneous-
ly, that he had disclosed the location of the Respondent’s
jobsites to the Union to aid its organizing campaign.
Such conduct is protected by the Act. See C. S. Telecom,
Inc., 336 NLRB 1193, 1193 (2001) (employee’s activity
of telling union the locations where he was working was
protected by Sec. 7); see also Dresser-Rand Co., 358
NLRB 254, 275 (2012) (“[U]nder normal circumstances,
an employee engages in protected concerted activity by
providing information about an employer’s operations to
outsiders in the course of a union campaign.”). Conse-
quently, the Respondent’s retaliation against Schoepfer
was unlawful even though the Respondent was mistaken
in its belief. See Handicabs, Inc., 318 NLRB 890, 897
(1995), enfd. 95 F.3d 681 (8th Cir. 1996), cert. denied
521 U.S. 1118 (1997).
In affirming the judge’s finding that Schoepfer’s dis-
charge was unlawful, moreover, we reject the Respond-

1 The Respondent has excepted to some of the judge’s credibility
findings. The Board’s established policy is not to overrule an adminis-
trative law judge’s credibility resolutions unless the clear preponder-
ance of all the relevant evidence convinces us that they are incorrect.
Standard Dry Wall Products, 91 NLRB 544 (1950), enfd. 188 F.2d 362
(3d Cir. 1951). We have carefully examined the record and find no
basis for reversing the findings.
We do not rely on the judge’s characterizations and inferences con-
cerning “salts” and “salting” except to note that the Supreme Court in
NLRB v. Town & Country Electric, Inc., 516 U.S. 85 (1995), held that
an individual paid by a union “to help the union organize the company”
may also be a protected “employee” under Sec. 2(3) of the Act. 516
U.S. at 87.
ent’s argument that the judge held it to an impermissibly
high standard by stating at one point that the Respond-
ent’s affirmative defense burden under Wright Line2 was
to establish that it discharged Schoepfer “for cause.”
Having found that the General Counsel demonstrated
that the Respondent’s belief that Schoepfer had engaged
in union activity was a motivating factor in his discharge,
the judge appropriately stated (twice) that the burden
shifted to the Respondent to show, as an affirmative de-
fense, that it would have discharged Schoepfer even if it
had not believed that he had engaged in such activity.
See Wright Line, supra, 251 NLRB at 1089; Manno Elec-
tric, supra, 321 NLRB at 280 fn. 12. In the entire context
of the judge’s analysis, then, it is clear that in employing
the phrase “for cause,” the judge was simply requiring
the Respondent to prove that it had a legitimate nondis-
criminatory reason for discharging Schoepfer—i.e., his
asserted work deficiencies—and that it actually would
have discharged him for that reason in the absence of its
belief that he was assisting the Union’s organizational
activities. We agree with the judge that the Respondent
failed to carry that burden.3
ORDER
The National Labor Relations Board adopts the rec-
ommended Order of the administrative law judge and
orders that the Respondent, Evolution Mechanical Ser-
vices, Inc. and Murray Mechanical Services, Inc., Buena

2 251 NLRB 1083, 1089 (1980), enfd. 662 F.2d 899 (1st Cir. 1981),
cert. denied 455 U.S. 989 (1982), approved in NLRB v. Transportation
Mgmt. Corp., 462 U.S. 393 (1983). We note that, at one point, the
judge, citing FPC Moldings, Inc. v. NLRB, 64 F.3d 935, 942 (4th Cir.
1995), characterized the General Counsel’s burden as requiring proof
that “the employer took adverse action against the employee motivated
in substantial part by the employee’s protected activity” (emphasis
added). That characterization is somewhat misleading. The court of
appeals stated that the General Counsel’s burden is to show “that the
[protected] activity was a substantial or motivating reason for the em-
ployer’s action.” Id. (Emphasis added.) That formulation is consistent
with the Board’s own. See, e.g., Manno Electric, 321 NLRB 278, 280
fn. 12 (1996) (“Under [Wright Line], the Board has always first re-
quired the General Counsel to persuade that antiunion sentiment was a
substantial or motivating factor in the challenged employer decision”
(emphasis added).), enfd. mem. 127 F.3d 34 (5th Cir. 1997).
3 It is not entirely clear whether the judge found that the Respondent
presented legitimate reasons for discharging Schoepfer but failed to
show that it would have discharged him for those reasons had it not
believed that he had engaged in protected activity, or whether he found
that the Respondent’s asserted reasons were pretextual—i.e., that they
either did not exist or were not actually relied upon. Limestone Appar-
el, 255 NLRB 722 (1981), enfd. 705 F.2d 799 (6th Cir 1982). Even
assuming that the Respondent’s proffered reasons were not pretextual,
we agree with the judge that the Respondent failed to establish its af-
firmative defense that it would have discharged him for reasons unre-
lated to protected activity. Bally’s Atlantic City, 355 NLRB 1319, 1321
(2010), enfd. sub nom. Bally’s Park Place, Inc. v. NLRB, 646 F.3d 929,
936 (D.C. Cir. 2011); Eddyleon Chocolate Co., 301 NLRB 887, 890
(1991).
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Park, California, its officers, agents, successors, and as-
signs, shall take the action set forth in the Order.
Lisa McNeill, Atty., for the Acting General Counsel.
Erick J. Becker, Atty., for the Respondent.
Will Scott, for the Charging Party.
DECISION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
WILLIAM L. SCHMIDT, Administrative Law Judge. I heard
this case in Los Angeles, California, from July 9 through 11,
2012. Local 105 of the Sheet Metal Workers’ International
Association, AFL–CIO (Charging Party, Local 105, or Union)
filed the original charge on July 18, 2011,1 alleging that Murray
Mechanical Services, Inc., violated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of
the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA or Act).2 After the
Union amended the charge on September 22, the Acting Re-
gional Director for Region 21 of the National Labor Relations
Board (Board or NLRB) issued a complaint and notice of hear-
ing on September 30. The Union then filed a second amended
charge on December 1. On April 27, 2012, the Regional Direc-
tor issued an amended complaint and notice of hearing (com-
plaint) realleging the prior substantive allegations but also iden-
tified Respondent Evolution Mechanical as an employing entity
and successor to Respondent Murray Mechanical with notice of
the latter’s possible liability to remedy the alleged unfair labor
practices first identified in the original complaint.3 An answer,
filed on behalf of Respondent Murray and Respondent Evolu-
tion, admitted the complaint allegations that Murray changed its
name to Evolution and continued the existing employing enter-
prise so that Evolution became a successor with notice. Other-
wise this answer denies the substantive unfair labor practice
allegations.

1 The relevant events in the case all occurred in May and June 2011.
All further dates that do not reflect a calendar year refer to 2011.
2 Sec. 8(a)(1) defines employer conduct that seeks “to interfere with,
restrain, or coerce employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in
Section 7” as an unfair labor practice. The pertinent part of Sec. 7
provides that employees “shall have the right to self-organization, to
form, join or assist labor organizations, to bargain collectively through
representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in other concerted
activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or
protection” as well as the right to refrain from any of these activities
except as otherwise provided under the Act. It is also an unfair labor
practice under Sec. 8(a)(3) for an employer to discriminate against an
employee “in regard to hire or tenure of employment or any term or
condition of employment to encourage or discourage membership in
any labor organization.” Sec. 10 of the Act empowers the Board “to
prevent any person from engaging in any unfair labor practice affecting
commerce.”
3 The amended complaint is cast in terms implying that Evolution is
Mechanical’s successor under both the Burns Security and Golden State
doctrines. See NLRB v. Burns Security Services, 406 U.S. 272 (1972),
and Golden State Bottling v. NLRB, 414 U.S. 168 (1973). However, as
the amended complaint contains no 8(a)(5) allegation and as the
amended complaint contains “with notice” language (which Respond-
ent admits), I have concluded for analytical purposes that the admitted
allegation only implicates the Golden State doctrine.
Having now considered the record,4 including the demeanor
of the witnesses and the reliability of their testimony, together
with the arguments in the briefs filed on behalf of the Acting
General Counsel and the Respondent, I find that Respondent
engaged in certain independent 8(a)(1) violations and an 8(a)(3)
violation based on the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
I. JURISDICTION
Respondent, a California corporation, is engaged in the busi-
ness of heating, ventilation, and air-conditioning installation
and maintenance for commercial enterprises. During a 12-
month period ending June 30, 2011, Respondent, in conducting
its business operations, purchased and received, at its Buena
Park, California, location, goods valued in excess of $50,000
directly from points outside of the State of California. Re-
spondent admits, and I find, that it is an employer engaged in
commerce within the meaning of Section 2(2), (6), and (7) of
the Act. I further find that it would effectuate the purposes of
the Act for the Board to exercise its statutory jurisdiction to
resolve this labor dispute.
II. ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
A. Credibility Overview
This case is rife with credibility conflicts. Nearly all of the
evidence presented by the Acting General Counsel in support of
every 8(a)(1) and key aspects of the discrimination allegations
are disputed by Respondent’s witnesses. Along the way I have
made credibility resolutions with the recognition that most of
the witnesses who appeared in the case harbor strong biases,
some of which resulted from the fact that the Union engaged in
a salting campaign in an effort to organize the Company.5 The
strength of those biases has played a significant role in my per-
ception of the various witnesses and the reliability of their tes-
timony.
The Respondent’s witnesses included its president, Matt
Murray, its estimator, Marisol (Maria) Ramos (Ramos), its field
superintendent, Robert Fry, and its job foreman, Richard Pow-
ell. Murray had next to nothing to do with the disputed events

4 The unopposed motion by counsel for the Acting General Counsel
to correct the transcript is granted. At the hearing I granted the Acting
General Counsel’s motion to withdraw the allegation that Respondent
terminated employee Rick Taloa in violation of Sec. 8(a)(1) and (3)
after he failed to appear. I also granted Respondent’s motion to amend
its answer to admit that Robert Fry was a supervisor and agent within
the meaning of Sec. 2(11) and (13).
5 Salting is a legitimate union organizing tactic. NLRB v. Town &
Country Electric, 516 U.S. 85 (1995). It typically involves authorizing
members to seek work with unorganized employers provided the work-
er agrees to engage in organizing efforts from within if hired. Tualatin
Electric, 312 NLRB 129, 130 fn. 3 (1993), enfd. 84 F.3d 1202, 1203 fn.
1 (9th Cir. 1996). Courts sometimes ascribe a malevolent motive to
unions using this device if it appears that the unorganized employer
suffers prohibitive operating costs attributable to the union’s salting
tactics. Starcon, Inc. v. NLRB, 176 F.3d 948, 949 (7th Cir. 1999).
Workers cooperating with their union by seeking nonunion employ-
ment and advancing the union’s salting policies, if hired, are called
“salts.” Oil Capitol Sheet Metal, Inc., 349 NLRB 1348 fn. 5 (2007).
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apart from making the ultimate decision to terminate Oscar
Montes (Montes) and Rick Taloa (Taloa). On the basis of his
demeanor, I found Murray to be a truthful witness whose testi-
mony I generally credit.
I came to the same conclusion about Ramos, the Company’s
estimator for the past 6 years. Her work includes the prepara-
tion of job bids for Murray’s final review and okay. Once Mur-
ray approves a bid, Ramos either submits it to the contractor or
attempts to negotiate a job price with the customer. If the
Company acquires a project, she follows up to control project
costs. She was a key figure in the firing of Montes and Taloa.
Ramos’ presented the demeanor of a no-nonsense business-
woman who was unquestionably put off by Montes’ conde-
scending tone when they spoke on June 3.
Field Superintendent Robert Fry (Fry), an admitted supervi-
sor and agent, played a significant role in virtually all of the
disputed events. Though impressive as a witness, Fry undoubt-
edly harbored a strong bias against particular officials of Local
105. He had been a loyal member of Local 105 for nearly two
decades, deeply appreciative of the benefits he and members of
his family received by way of his work in union shops. But, his
inability to find work during the recent recession led to his
employment with Murray, a nonunion firm. It is evident that he
sought to hide that fact from the Union because he was obvi-
ously aware of the potential for disciplinary action, which even-
tually occurred. A palpable sense of bitterness toward the Un-
ion, on his part, emerged by the end of the hearing. Fry admit-
ted remarks that he made to employees showing his frustration
with the severe competition for union jobs at the hiring hall.
But despite the sympathy I had for Fry’s story, I have conclud-
ed that he did not always take the time to hew to the letter of
the law when instructing employees about run of the mill pro-
tected activities permissible at their jobsites.
Richard Powell (Powell), the company foreman purportedly
fired for failing get his projects completed on time, was the
only witness who addressed Murray’s largely benign instruc-
tions on dealing with the union organizers’ activities. Only two
of the independent 8(a)(1) allegations pertain to Powell’s con-
duct. I have given considerable credence to his testimony ex-
cept where I have provided a rationale for doing otherwise.
Even though he appeared pursuant to Respondent’s subpoena
and generally supported Respondent’s claims, he single-
handedly destroyed Respondent’s defense that he was not a
Section 2(11) supervisor or a Section 2(13) agent.6 But, as to a
few specific events, I have not credited his general denials of

6 Powell testified that Murray delegated the hiring of employees to
him while he served as a foreman and that he independently hired three
employees. He also assigned work to employees at the project where
he worked and otherwise directed the daily work activities of employ-
ees under his supervision. The evidence also shows Powell kept track
of employee hours, ordered materials, provided guidance to employees
about their work during the day, and regularly communicated Company
decisions about layoffs and reassignments to employees. Having con-
cluded that Powell was a supervisor and an agent within the meaning of
Sec. 2(11) and (13), I find Respondent responsible for his conduct vis-
à-vis his reactions to the employees’ union activities based on the to-
tality of the circumstances found here. Corrugated Partitions West,
275 NLRB 894, 900–901 (1985).
claims made by more credible witnesses of the Acting General
Counsel.
The degree of bias on the part of the Acting General Coun-
sel’s witnesses presents a mixed lot. Two, Mike Garcia (Gar-
cia) and Daniel Kolisar (Kolisar), were authorized union salts
who actively aided the Union’s salting program while working
for the Company. For that reason, I have carefully scrutinized
their testimony particularly where, as here, virtually no inten-
tional effort was made to corroborate the testimony of any wit-
ness. Robert Schoepfer (Schoepfer) and Donn Flanders (Flan-
ders) were long-time members of Local 105 but were not au-
thorized salts and no evidence shows that they made an effort to
aid Local 105’s organizing effort apart from signing a union
authorization card (union card), an act that long-time members
could hardly refuse. Robert Van Gessel (Van Gessel), a partic-
ularly credible witness, had not been a member of Local 105
for several years when he worked for the Company. There is
no evidence that Montes or Taloa belonged to Local 105 or any
other union.
Two of the Company’s records, the daily time records for its
employees between April and June (GC Exh. 10), and the
monthly time allocation summary for each project from March
through June (R. Exh. 3 through 5) proved invaluable for a
variety of purposes. Most of all, these records aided me in
checking the recollections of the witnesses. For example, they
provide corroboration for Van Gessel’s account as to when and
who was present at a lunch-time conversation when Powell
allegedly uttered a threat in late May 2011. And oddly, some
of the testimony by the employee witnesses accidently con-
verged in a manner that provided a corroborative quality that
aided me in reaching particular conclusions. Thus, I find it
significant that Garcia remembers that Fry called Schoepfer a
“mole” one day, and Montes’ recalled that Powell called
Schoepfer a “spy” the next morning.
B. Introduction
Complaint paragraph 6, as amended at the hearing, alleges
the Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) by discharging
Schoepfer, Flanders, and Montes for engaging in union activity.
Respondent denied these allegations. It argues Schoepfer,
Flanders, and Montes were terminated for economic and per-
formance reasons unrelated to their union activity. More spe-
cifically, the Respondent asserted that it laid Schoepfer off
when the project where he worked, and others, neared comple-
tion and because other workers performed better. As to Flan-
ders, Respondent argues that a combination of circumstances
lead to his lack of employment following the week of vacation
that he took in mid-May 2011. They also included the declin-
ing need for workers as projects neared completion and Flan-
ders’ failure to follow Fry’s request to call about further availa-
ble job assignments. Finally, Respondent asserts that it termi-
nated Montes (together with Taloa) immediately after its esti-
mator observed these two workers engaging in excessive per-
sonal visiting during worktime.
Complaint paragraphs 7 through 21 contain 21 independent
8(a)(1) allegations attributable to Respondent’s agents and su-
pervisors, Fry and Powell. These allegations assert that Fry and
Powell, in May and June at the height of the Union’s organiz-
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ing campaign, violated the Act by coercively interrogating em-
ployees about their union activities and sympathies, by prohib-
iting employees from talking with union organizers, and by
threatening employees in an effort to discourage them from
engaging in protected activities.
Respondent’s operation is divided into two divisions, con-
struction and service. The construction division serves as a
specialty subcontractor for general building contractors en-
gaged in performing new construction or extensive renovation
work. Respondent’s workers in this division either install new
heating, ventilation and air conditioning (HVAC) systems
along with the attendant ductwork or perform extensive renova-
tions on existing systems. Respondent does not maintain a
regular complement of construction workers; instead, it hires
workers as needed and generally lays them off when its projects
are completed. By contrast, workers in Respondent’s service
division, which is not involved in this proceeding, perform
ordinary service and repair work on existing HVAC equipment
for Respondent’s customers. There is no history of collective
bargaining in either division.
The new HVAC systems installed by Respondent are typi-
cally designed by a specialized engineer. The project’s general
contractor furnishes the engineer-approved plans for use by the
HVAC contractor, such as Respondent. Using those plans and
detail drawings prepared from them, Respondent’s employees
install the ductwork and all of the other equipment in its proper
location under the direct supervision of their project foreman.
Along the way, care is taken to coordinate the work of Re-
spondent’s employees with that of the other trades on the
jobsite, such as plumbers, electricians and so on, to ensure that
the installation of the HVAC equipment does not interfere with
the work to be performed by others. If a worker installs equip-
ment or ducts in a location or of a size different than specified
in the building plan, the work ordinarily will have to be redone
at the subcontractor’s expense so that it remains compatible
with the work specified in the building plans for the contractor
or other subcontractors on the project.
In early 2011, the Company acquired several new construc-
tion projects. The duration of these specialty projects generally
lasted from 2 or 3 weeks to 3 or 4 months. This increased con-
struction work led Company President Matt Murray to hire Fry
as its construction superintendent in March 2011. Fry was
assigned to oversee all of the construction division projects.
Fry, an experienced HVAC tradesman, served an apprentice-
ship at Local 105 in the early to mid-1990s and went on to
work as a journeyman and supervisor in the industry. While
serving his apprenticeship, Fry participated in Local 105’s salt-
ing program. Immediately prior to his employment at the
Company, Fry had been through a lengthy layoff period. Other
Local 105 journeymen reported recent out-of-work periods
ranged up to a year or more and the record contains hints that as
many as 800 or 900 workers were on Local 105’s out-of-work
list during the most recent economic recession.
After Fry came aboard, Murray and Fry began to hire work-
ers to man its recently acquired construction work. It recruited
by word of mouth, and by advertising its openings in the print
media and on a variety of internet sites.
Local 105 indirectly aided Respondent’s recruitment efforts.
In January 2011, the Local 105 membership adopted a salting
resolution to counter the extreme effects the economic reces-
sion had on its members. Those permitted to salt received im-
munity from internal union charges for violating the Union’s
constitutional ban against working for nonunion contractors.
Local 105 agents conducted classes for members admitted to
the salting program that related to on-the-job organizing tech-
niques and the types of reports union officials wanted. Author-
ized salts were provided with a list of contractors known to
have job openings. Members who obtained work through the
salting program received pension credit for the time they
worked as salts. Fry claimed that he sought to become a Local
105 salt before he became Respondent’s superintendent but that
the union officials he approached denied his requests purport-
edly because he was a journeyman.7
During the spring of 2011, these various recruiting sources
resulted in the hiring of, among others, the Acting General
Counsel’s witnesses, namely, Flanders, Garcia, Kolisar, Mon-
tes, Schoepfer, and Van Gessel. The Union authorized Garcia
and Kolisar to seek work with the Company as salts. Fry hired
Garcia and he started on April 4 at the Forever 21 project in the
Ontario Mills Shopping Center (Ontario Mills job or project).
Fry appointed Garcia to be the “foreman pusher” at Ontario
Mills a week or two later. Fry also hired Kolisar who started
working at the Ontario Mills job on April 13. Later on, he too
became a foreman at a Company jobsite. Schoepfer and Flan-
ders were not authorized salts but learned about work opportu-
nities with the Company from a union brother who had been
provided a list of nonunion employers by Local 105 organizers.
Fry hired each of them a day apart, initially to work at the On-
tario Mills job. Van Gessel, an experienced journeyman with
over 30 years experience in the industry, belonged to Local 105
off and on in prior years but not while working for the Compa-
ny. Murray hired Van Gessel and referred him to Fry to be
dispatched to a job. He initially worked at Ontario Mills.
Montes and Taloa were both hired in late May to work on the
Target store project in San Clemente, California (Target job or
project).
C. The alleged discriminates
Robert Schoepfer: Schoepfer started working for the Com-
pany on April 5 at the Ontario Mills job. He had been a mem-
ber of Local 105 off and on since 1987. Schoepfer, who had
been unemployed for a lengthy period, went to the Ontario
Mills job on April 5 with his tools. There he met and spoke
with Fry who put him to work immediately after Schoepfer
described his experience and abilities.8
Fry admitted that he learned early on that Schoepfer be-
longed to the Union. Schoepfer claims that Fry asked directly
about his union membership during the prehire interview and

7 Fry’s assertion is inconsistent with the salts the Union ultimately
authorized and the Company hired. Both Garcia and Kolisar were
journeymen.
8 Schoepfer owned and operated a HVAC company for about 8
years and otherwise had considerable supervisory experience with other
HVAC firms in the area.
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that he told Fry that he belonged to the Union.9 Schoepfer said
that Fry did not seem to “have a problem with that.” In fact,
Fry told Schoepfer to tell others looking for work to contact
him.10
By the time of his layoff on May 25, Schoepfer had worked
at three of Respondent’s projects, the Ontario Mill job, the
Santa Rosa Recreation Center job in Indio, California, and the
Target job, his last assignment.
Respondent’s supervisors had little praise for Schoepfer’s
performance as a competent tradesman willing to follow the
directions provided. According to Fry, he reviewed Schoep-
fer’s work within days after he started working at the Ontario
Mills job. Of the six layouts that Schoepfer had been assigned,
all had to be redone. In Fry’s judgment, Schoepfer’s errors
were of the type that no journeyman with Schoepfer’s reported
experience should have made. For his part, Schoepher felt the
work he had done represented an improvement over what he
had been told to do and the depiction of the HVAC system on
the job plans.11 Subsequent errors of this type occurred from
time to time. In addition, both Fry and Powell claimed that
Schoepfer worked much slower than the other journeymen.
Powell, in particular, described Schoepfer as “the slowest guy
in the world.”
Although he made his union membership known to Fry
somehow or other, Schoepfer did nothing else to assist Local
105’s effort to organize the Company’s workers other than
signing a union card on the evening of May 24, the day before
his layoff. No evidence shows that any of Respondent’s man-
agers or supervisors knew that he signed a union card until the
hearing.
On May 25, Local 105 Business Agent Bill Shaver arrived at
the Target jobsite before work started. When Fry noticed his
arrival, he spoke to Schoepfer about getting off the job.
Whether Schoepfer’s departure was voluntary or not is a matter
of dispute. Fry claims that Schoepfer left of his own volition to
avoid being caught working on a nonunion job by union offi-
cials. Schoepfer claims that Fry informed him of Shaver’s
arrival at the job and then told him “[y]ou need to get your stuff
and get out of here” as Fry did not want trouble with the Un-
ion.12
At Fry’s direction, Powell called Schoepfer’s home on the
evening of May 25 and left a message that he had been laidoff.
Fry explained that he made the decision to terminate Schoepfer
following a discussion with Powell that day about his manpow-
er needs for the Target job. Concurrent with Schoepfer’s
layoff, the Company hired Montes and Taloa to work at Target

9 Schoepfer held his hard hat with Local 105 stickers in his hand
when interviewed by Fry.
10 Fry denies that he asked Schoepfer about his union affiliation out-
right but concedes that he soon learned of that fact by way of ordinary
workplace chatter.
11 Schoepfer virtually admitted that he substituted his own judgment
for the layouts shown on the job plans. He also seemed to fault Fry’s
directions for completing his assigned work.
12 I credit Schoepfer’s assertion that Fry directed him to leave the
Target job that morning rather than giving him an option. Some of
credited testimony of Garcia and Montes, detailed below, substantiates
the involuntary nature of Schoepfer’s departure.
and transferred two employees (Kolisar and Lauzon) from On-
tario Mills to the Target job effective May 26. Fry said he laid
Schoepfer off for two basic reasons: (1) the Target job had
gotten behind schedule; and (2) Schoepfer did not have the
speed required for working at Target. He denied that Schoep-
fer’s layoff was motivated by his union sympathies or activi-
ties.
Powell agreed with the decision to terminate Schoepfer.
Powell described Schoepfer as a slow installer who made too
many mistakes. He also implied that Schoepfer had an elevated
notion of his skills as he primarily preferred to perform layout
work or to act as the foreman. He asserted that he had wanted
to let Schoepfer go from the first day he worked at Target.
Donn Flanders: Flanders, a sheet metal worker for over 34
years, has been a member of Local 105 since 2001. He first
learned about job opportunities from a fellow member at Local
105, probably a union salt who had been given the information
by the Union. He passed the information along to Schoepfer,
and after learning that the Company hired Schoepfer, he went
to the Ontario Mills job where Fry put him to work on April 6,
the day after Schoepfer started. His employment history with
Respondent closely paralleled Schoepfer’s purportedly because
Fry understood that the two workers ordinarily carpooled to-
gether.
Flanders engaged in no known activity in support of Local
105 while actively working for the Company. In fact, there is
no evidence that he told any official of Local 105 that he had
become employed at the Company until he signed a union card
that is dated Monday, June 6, a few days after he presumed that
he had been laid off.
At his initial job interview, Flanders told Fry that he needed
to take week’s vacation time in June. Fry told him it would be
no problem. When the appointed time came, which was actual-
ly in mid-May, Flanders went on vacation for a week. He re-
turned from vacation on the Wednesday before the Memorial
Day weekend holiday. Flanders soon learned (probably on
Thursday or Friday) of Schoepfer’s layoff.13 As it turned out,
Flanders never worked for the Company again.
After learning of Schoepfer’s layoff, Flanders telephoned
Powell about further work. Powell told him that he needed to
speak with Fry. When Flanders called Fry, he said the superin-
tendent told him only that “it all blew up.” Because that was
the only thing said to him, Flanders presumed that he also had
been laid off because Schoepfer had been laid off. Thus, he
testified as follows:
JUDGE SCHMIDT: Well, wait a minute. Let me come back to
this conversation. You came back from vacation, and you
spoke to Mr. Schoepfer, learned that he’d been let go. And
then you called Richard (Powell); right?
THE WITNESS: Yes.
JUDGE SCHMIDT: And Richard said you’re supposed to call
Bob Fry. And all I heard that took place when you spoke to

13 Flanders seemed confused as to when he took his vacation and
when he returned. The employee time record shows that Flanders’ last
worked for 2 hours on May 17 at Target. Other evidence merits the
inference that he returned on May 25.
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Bob Fry was, quote, “It all blew up.” Was there anything else
said in that conversation?
THE WITNESS: No.
JUDGE SCHMIDT: Well, what did that mean to you?
THE WITNESS: That meant to me that I was fired, just like Bob
Schoepfer. We came in as a team. I’d already talked to Bob
Schoepfer prior to that. I called the foreman. He didn’t have
any answer. I called Bob Fry, which he told me to do, and
that’s what he said, so I figured I was done.
JUDGE SCHMIDT: What did you do? Ask him if that means
you’re done, you’re no longer working?
THE WITNESS: I had already suspected that, based on what
happened to Bob Schoepfer.
Fry recalled speaking with Flanders the Friday before the
Memorial Day weekend on his cell phone while en route to an
out-of-town vacation location for the long weekend. He said
that Flanders reported that he had just returned from vacation
on Wednesday and wanted to know about work during the
week after Memorial Day. Fry told Flanders to call him back
after the holiday because he needed time to reschedule every-
one and ascertain the manpower needs for the various projects.
Fry and Flanders both agree they had no further contact. Fry
felt no need to pursue Flanders because the Company needed
no additional manpower around that time.14
Even though the Respondent had no serious disciplinary
problems with Flanders, both Schoepfer and Flanders annoyed
Fry because they tended to talk too much while at work.
Oscar Montes: Murray hired Montes because he felt addi-
tional workers were needed for the Target job. Montes reported
to the jobsite on May 24 and spoke with Fry before starting to
work. His principal working partner, Rick Taloa, started the
next day.15 Neither man worked on any other jobsite for the
Company. Montes spoke with the union organizers when they
came to the Target job. He recalled that Powell spoke to one of
the organizers while he spoke to another organizer nearby.
Purportedly, Montes signed a union card the night before his
discharge.16
Murray made the decision to terminate Montes and Taloa. It
was based primarily on Maria Ramos’ recommendation with
confirming data provided by Powell. Although Ramos works
mostly in the Company’s office, she personally visits the Com-

14 The project records reflect that the Company’s monthly manhours
peaked in May at 4041.25 hours and then fell off nearly 35 percent to
2684.25 hours in June.
15 Montes’ starting date with the Company is based on the employee
time record plus the Fry’s added detail rather than Montes’ recollection.
Fry recalled the concurrent hiring of Taloa in convincing detail. He
said both men came to the Target job on May 24. Montes went to work
immediately but Taloa did not have his tools and was undecided be-
cause he already had a job elsewhere. Taloa left that morning with the
understanding that he could go to work for the Company the following
day if he wanted. Fry recalled Taloa actually started working on May
25, a fact confirmed by the employee time record.
16 Union organizer Will Scott supposedly solicited Montes’ union
card at a carwash where Montes went to work after finishing his work-
day at Target on June 6.
pany’s projects about once a month for general oversight pur-
poses.
On Friday June 3, Ramos went to the Target project. She ar-
rived at about 11 a.m. and remained until around 4:30 p.m.
Near the end of her stay, she observed two employees whose
names she did not know wandering around the job for about
half an hour, engaging in a personal conversation and doing no
work. All of the other employees, Ramos said, were working
productively and there was plenty of work at the project for the
two employees she observed talking. Montes remembered that
Ramos visited the Target job on June 3. He asked Gonzalo
Rodriquez,17 one of the more senior workers on the job, about
her and learned only that she worked in the Company’s office.
Montes said he ran out of materials he needed to do his work
around noontime and spent most of the afternoon wandering
around the jobsite with a bucket collecting screws and straps, a
task indirectly assigned by Fry.18 When he reached the area
where Taloa was working and Ramos happened to be, he com-
mented to Taloa that he thought it was “stupid” to be picking
up screws on the jobsite. His comment prompted Ramos to ask
Montes if he had something to do. According to Montes, he
responded as follows:
I told (Ramos) that we had a lot to do but we needed material.
And I just keep picking up screws and walked away to what-
ever I was doing.
Q Did (Ramos) respond to you when you said that—that,
“We have a lot to do but we need materials”?
A She said that—well, first of all, I asked her who she was
because she never introduced herself. And I don’t think she
told me her name. She just said, “Well, Matt sent me over
here to keep you guys busy,” and that was just her words.
And I told her, “Well, I will keep busy but I will need these
type of materials. So, if you have it with you, if you have a
company truck, that would be great, so I can do my work.”
And she said she didn’t have it. So I said, “Okay. Then I got
to keep picking up the screws I’m picking up around the job
site.” So I just (w)alked away.
Ramos clearly did not like what she observed. When she
went to her office on Monday June 6, she reported her observa-
tions to Murray and told him that he should fire the two em-
ployees she saw wasting time and the Company’s money. Both
Murray and Ramos denied that they knew of any union activity
by either employee at that time. In fact, neither knew the
names of the two employees until later in the day.
Murray reported Ramos’ observations about the two em-
ployees to Powell. Based on the description Murray provided
to him, Powell identified the two employees as Montes and
Taloa. He confirmed to Murray that the two employees often

17 Montes remembered Rodriquez given name but thought his sur-
name was Hernandez. The employee time record shows that Rodriquez
was the only company employee with the given-name of Gonzalo at the
Target job that day.
18 Powell left the job to purchase more of the materials used by
Montes that day. When Montes ran out of his supply, he asked Rodri-
quez if he should go home. Rodriquez called Fry who gave the instruc-
tion that Montes should pickup materials scattered on the floor to use.
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talked a lot and were not very fast workers.19 Based on Pow-
ell’s added evaluation, Murray decided to terminate both em-
ployees and instructed Powell to do so. At the end of the
workday on June 7, Powell told Montes and Taloa that they
were fired for talking too much. The employee time record
shows Dustin Curtiss and Brian Weller first worked for the
Company beginning on June 8 at the Target job and worked
there for the next 10 days before spending a couple of added
days at other jobs.
D. Chronology of other relevant events
By late May, Local 105 stepped up its effort to organize Re-
spondent’s workforce. On May 24, several of its organizers
visited the homes of employees known to be working for the
Company to promote the Union’s cause and to seek signed
union cards. By that time, Local 105 officials knew that Fry
worked for Respondent. With this knowledge, Business Agent
Shaver went to Fry’s home that evening seeking to learn
whether Respondent would be willing to become a union con-
tractor. During their conversation, Fry denied any connection
with the Company other than a friendship with Matt Murray.
Shaver told Fry about the Union’s plan to visit Company’s job-
sites in order to promote the Union to employees.
The Company’s project record for May 25 shows that it em-
ployed workers at the Santa Rosa project at Indio; the Ontario
Mills project; the Target project; the Kohl’s project at Encini-
tas; and the Winco project at Tracy, a northern California city
far outside Local 105’s geographical jurisdiction. Although Fry
claimed that union organizers visited “all” of the Company’s
projects on May 25, the evidence pertains only to visits at On-
tario Mills and Target that day.
May 25: Union organizers visit the Target job. Fry arrived
at the Company’s Target project on May 25 at about 5:30 a.m.
Shortly before 6 a.m., he saw Shaver drive into the Target park-
ing lot. Soon after noticing Shaver, Fry came upon Schoepfer,
who had worked on the Target job off and on since May 5,
gathering up his tools for the day’s work. As found above, Fry
directed Schoepfer to leave the job.
Van Gessel also worked at the Target job on May 25. He ar-
rived for work around 6:15 a.m. that morning, in time to see
Schoepfer leaving, but the two did not speak. When Van Ges-
sel met Fry on the jobsite that morning, Fry told him that union
agents would be at the job that day and that he should not talk
to them. Van Gessel recalled that some union organizers ar-
rived on the jobsite around 8 a.m. while he was working on an
elevated lift. Will Scott, one of the organizers Van Gessel
knew from a home visit the night before, greeted him and left
some organizing materials but the two men did not visit further.
As noted, Montes started work at the Target job on May 24.
He too recalled that union organizers visited the jobsite on May
25. He further recalled that Fry gathered all (five or six accord-
ing to him) of the sheet metal workers before the union agents
arrived, informed the group that union organizers would be
there that day, and stated that they “were not allowed to talk to

19 Fry described Montes as a “green” tradesman, meaning that he
exhibited only a minimal level of skill. He credited Taloa with having
more experience than Montes.
[the union agents] for no reason.” By his account, Fry also
instructed the employees to tell Powell about anything the un-
ion agents said to them. Then, summarizing Fry’s purported
remarks, Montes testified: “And that was about it. We were not
allowed to talk to them because we will get fired if we talk to
the Union representative.”
According to Montes, when the union agents arrived on the
jobsite around 9 or 9:30 a.m., Taloa and he both spoke with
them. At the time, Montes said, Powell was only about 10 feet
away speaking with another union agent. Powell admitted that
he saw some union agents talking with Montes but there is no
evidence that he made any effort to interfere or to learn what
the organizers may have said to Montes or Taloa.
Fry denied that he had a group meeting with the Target
workers on May 25 but he admitted talking to a group of the
Target workers on May 26 or 27, a day or two after the union
organizers’ first visit to that job. Fry remembered that his talk
to the group began before work that morning when a couple of
the workers approached and told him about the package of
benefits the organizers described during their first visit. Soon
others joined the discussion, making five or six workers present
altogether.
Fry claimed that he told the group of employees that he knew
the union benefits were very good because he had been in the
union for 15 years. But he added, “just ask [the organizers] one
thing[,] can you give me a job tomorrow?” Fry predicted the
organizers could not answer that question because the Union
had “800 guys out of work.” Fry suggested the Union might be
a great thing in a couple of years when construction work got
better but since there was no work with the Union at the mo-
ment, “this is where I’m at . . . this is what I’m doing to sur-
vive.”
Fry said several workers spoke up asking various questions
about union pay and benefits and mentioned that union organ-
izers had even visited their homes. He claimed that he told the
group “that’s fine” but when organizers show up at work, they
“have rules just like we have rules.” Fry said he explained
those rules to the group this way:
[T]hey can talk to you before work, during your break, during
your lunch, and after work. I said it ain’t fair to Matt and the
[C]ompany to be talking to them during work. I said you
know you can talk to them all you want, they’re going to
come out and they’re going preach to you the benefits of un-
ion, and there’s benefits there, but at the same timethere’s no
work there right now. So it’s up to you guys, whatever you
guys want to do, just not during working hours you shouldn’t
be talking to them.
As noted, Fry transferred Kolisar and Lauzon to the Target
job effective May 26. Kolisar said that Fry approached the two
men on their first day at the Target job, told them he was hav-
ing union issues, and stated: if anybody from the union came
out, not to talk to them.” Fry flatly denied that he ever told
Kolisar not to talk to the Union.
I have previously credited the account provided by Schoep-
fer concerning the events at the Target job on May 25. In addi-
tion, I credit Van Gessel’s claim that Fry told him not to talk
with the union agents that morning. I found Van Gessel’s story
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about the exchange had a greater degree of probability than
Fry’s implicit denial. Van Gessel did not appear to be embel-
lishing his account at all. Although Van Gessel signed a union
card the night before, he was still not a full-fledged union
member subject to union discipline, and he was not a union salt.
These circumstances, coupled with his convincing demeanor,
have led me to conclude that any bias he might have harbored
because of his past union membership and having recently
signed a union card did not influence his account of this inci-
dent. And due to the similarity of the remarks also attributed to
Fry by Kolisar and Van Gessel in the same time period, I also
credit Kolisar’s account described above.
May 25: Union organizers visit the Ontario Mills job. Gar-
cia claimed that Fry telephoned him on the morning of May 25
to tell him that union organizers had been at the Target job that
morning and he anticipated they would visit the Ontario Mills
job later. Fry also told Garcia that he wanted the men to keep
working, that he did not want them talking to the organizers,
and for Garcia to call him if the organizers came to the job. No
evidence shows that Garcia relayed Fry’s instructions to the
other employees. On the contrary, when two organizers arrived
at the jobsite around 11 a.m. that morning, Garcia, Kolisar, and
Cody Lauzon, the other employee on the job, all visited with
the organizers for awhile and then signed union cards.
Garcia said he called Fry as instructed near the end of the
day to let him know that the union organizers had been at the
jobsite. When Fry purportedly asked what he had said to the
organizers, Garcia told him that all of the employees had talked
to the organizers, that he had signed a union card, and that he
thought Kolisar and Lauzon also signed union cards. Accord-
ing to Garcia, Fry’s only reaction to this news was “Oh, okay.”
Yet later when Fry visited the Ontario Mills job, Garcia said
he had the following exchange with Fry:
And he was asking, you know, “I had to—I sent Bob Schoep-
fer home, you know.” And I go, “Why did you send him
home?” He’s all, “Well, you know, that guy, he’s the mole.
He’s the mole of the company. He’s the one that’s telling the
Union all about the—where all the jobs are at.” He’s all, “I
know it’s him, you know.” So and I go, “Oh, okay.” You
know, yeah, that’s the other time that he told me that, he sent
him home, you know.
Q. The time that he told you he sent Bob Schoepfer home,
was this a face to face conversation or was it—
A. Yeah.
Later on, with some prodding from counsel for the Acting
General Counsel, Garcia added that Fry also identified Flanders
as a “mole” along with Schoepfer.
Fry denied that he ever spoke of a “union mole” to Garcia.
He also denied that Garcia informed him May 25 that he (Gar-
cia) had signed a union card when organizers visited the Ontar-
io Mills job.20 Instead, Fry claims that Garcia first broke the

20 I credit Fry’s claim that Garcia did not tell him about the Ontario
Mill employees signing union cards during this phone conversation.
The tepid response Garcia described is inconsistent with Fry’s instruc-
tion to Garcia, his forceful actions at Target earlier, and his other an-
news to him about signing a union card sometime after the
Memorial Day weekend while the two men were at “the River-
side job.”21 Fry claims that Garcia called him that day to let
him know that organizers visited the Ontario Mills job but the
only remarks he made to Garcia concerned Shaver’s visit to his
home the night before seemingly as a way of signifying that he
was not surprised by Garcia’s report. By denying that he had
spoken to Garcia earlier that day, Fry implicitly suggests that
Garcia initiated this report about the organizers’ visit to Ontario
Mills on May 25.
Relevant events after the Union’s May 25 organizing blitz.
When Montes arrived for work on May 26, he came upon Pow-
ell and Taloa talking as they loaded a materials cart near the job
entrance. He overheard Powell tell Taloa that “Bob” (obvious-
ly referring to Schoepfer) had just been fired. That remark
prompted Montes to ask why and Powell said that “Bob” had
been fired because Fry thought “he was a union spy and that he
was bringing the union into the company.” Powell never con-
tradicted this claim by Montes.
Robert Van Gessel recalled working at the Target job around
May 27. At lunch time that day, a group of employees that
included Gary Kaye, Dan Kolisar, and Jesse Larson discussed
the procedure used to vote on union representation because
Larson was unfamiliar with the process. Powell joined the
group in the midst of the discussion. Van Gessel recalled that
Powell listened to the discussion for awhile and then told the
group: “If you guys vote in the Union, . . . Matt will close us
down and none of you guys will have jobs. Matt will close
down the business.” Powell denied ever telling employees that
Murray would close the business if the employees voted for
union representation.22
Kolisar recalled that on another occasion later in May or
perhaps early June that Fry approached him in his work area at
the Target job and told him that he knew that he had signed a
union card. Then Fry said, “Did the Union tell you if they were
gonna have a job for you by signing that card? Did you ask
them that question?” Kolisar told Fry that he had not asked that
question but did not say anything further because Fry seemed
upset. Fry denied this specific incident ever occurred; in fact,
he denied ever talking to Kolisar about the Union.
Montes reported that Fry came to the area where he and his
partner, Taloa, were working on June 1, and told the two men
that he knew the Union planned to visit the job again that day.
Fry then said emphatically that he did not want them talking to
the Union at all and threatened to fire them if they did. Around
lunch time that day, Montes and Taloa encountered an organiz-
er distributing literature around the Target job. Montes did not

tagonistic responses later. Hence, I find it unlikely that Garcia told Fry
about signing union cards.
21 The project records and Murray’s testimony show that the Com-
pany had another Forever 21 project at Riverside during June 2011 but
this record only reflects time allocated to Fry at that job. The daily
time record allocates all of Garcia’s time to the Ontario Mills and no
time at the Riverside job. Garcia left the Company on June 22.
22 The time record confirms that the three men Van Gessel identified
worked at Target in the May 27 period. Kolisar testified before Van
Gessel, but was not queried about this conversation.
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speak with the organizer but he remembered that Taloa queried
the organizer about the Union’s lengthy out-of-work list.23
Mike Garcia recalled an occasion at the end of May or in ear-
ly June when he arranged to meet Fry at his home so the two
men could ride to a jobsite together. En route to the job, Garcia
said Fry commented about seeing Garcia’s picture in a Union
newsletter and said, “Oh, you’re a union guy, huh?” After
Garcia acknowledged that he was, Fry told him that he did not
want any trouble from the Union or from “any of the guys.”
Then Fry added, according to Garcia, that if he found out about
any “trouble . . . I’m going to take somebody out to the desert.”
Fry admitted that he had a brief discussion about seeing Gar-
cia’s picture in a union newsletter but provided very different
details. He said that it took place about a week after Garcia had
been hired (meaning about mid-April) when Garcia came to his
home so they could carpool together to a project.24 Fry provid-
ed the following benign account of their exchange about Gar-
cia’s picture in a union publication incident:
I just kind of giggled and said, noticed you—I saw your pic-
ture. He goes what? I said, yeah, the journal. So and then he
said, yeah, I’m in the union. I said well, okay, no problem me
too. You know we knew, you know, we were both doing—
working. And that was about the extent of it.
Q. Did he say anything else to you during that conversation?
A. Not that I can recall, it was just it was brought up at that
time.
Kolisar recalled that he and two others were assigned to the
BYD Motors project in downtown Los Angeles on June 6.25
Fry came to the project with blueprints for the job so he could
explain to Kolisar the work that had to be performed. During
their discussion, Fry told Kolisar that he was still having trou-
ble with the Union and that he now suspected that Richard
Powell was providing information to the Union. Kolisar also
said Fry told him that if union organizers came to the job, he
and the other employees should not talk to them.
About a week later, according to Kolisar, Fry came to the
BYD project to attend a job meeting. On that occasion, Fry
asked Kolisar if he had ever belonged to the Union. Kolisar
denied that he had belonged to the Union. As noted previously,
Fry denied ever speaking to Kolisar about the Union.
At the end of the workday on June 9, Powell told Van Gessel
to contact Fry to get his jobsite assignment for the following
day.26 That evening Van Gessel called Fry. Fry told Van Ges-

23 Kolisar also recalled that union organizers distributed literature on
the Target jobsite a “few days” after he started working there on May
26.
24 I do not credit Fry’s claim that this discussion occurred in mid-
April. Rather, Garcia’s recollection that it occurred after the Memorial
Day weekend strikes me as far more plausible and consistent with the
discussions that occurred between Fry and Garcia on May 25.
25 The time records show Cody Lauzon, and Isaias Diaz worked
with Kolisar at the Los Angeles job that day, and for the next 2 weeks.
26 Van Gessel pegged the date at June 7 or 8. He recalled specifical-
ly that it was a Thursday evening, which would have been June 9. The
Company’s daily time records show that Van Gessel worked at the
Target job on June 9 and at the Ontario Mills job on June 10.
sel to report to the Ontario Mills job the following day and then
asked where he stood “on this Union thing.” Reluctant to an-
swer directly, Van Gessel told Fry that, like him, he had been in
the Union in the past so the union agents had their contact in-
formation and could talk to them if they wanted. Fry then said:
“If you guys go Union, Matt will close the doors.” By Van
Gessel’s account, that ended their conversation. Fry also de-
nied that he ever spoke to Van Gessel about union matters.
Around June 10 or the next few days, Fry approached Garcia
and Gary Kaye while they worked together at the Ontario Mills
job and asked Kaye if he had signed a union card.27 Kaye ad-
mitted that he had. Fry then asked where he had signed it and
why. After Kaye responded, Fry told him that there was no
need to sign a card. Garcia said Fry then told Kaye that the
Union had “900 guys out on the books right now,” that the
union pension was “going in the tank,” that the Union had no
401(k) plan, and that there were no Union jobs. Fry then add-
ed, “If you were to go (to the Union) right now to . . . get a job,
you wouldn’t get hired. And if Murray Mechanical would go
union, Matt would just shut the doors (because) . . . . he can’t
afford to go union.” That prompted Garcia to intervene for a
short while until Fry “stormed off.” Fry denied talking about
the Union when Garcia and Kaye were both present. He also
denied that he told anyone that Murray would close the doors if
the employees unionized.
Garcia also recalled that Fry confronted him on another oc-
casion in late May or early June about his effort to help Cody
Lauzon join the Union. Garcia said Fry confronted him saying
that Lauzon reported that he had been talking to the Union on
the telephone. Garcia told Fry that he had called the “learning
center” rather than the Union to find out whether a worker
needed to have a high school diploma in order to become a
union member. After Garcia explained the purpose of the call,
he said the following exchange occurred:
He just pretty much said, you know, whosever behind all this
paperwork, all this organization, you know, they mess with
the wrong family. You know, they’re going to pay for this,
you know. It might not be me, but I know people that can
handle this.
You know, I’m like, “Dude, relax, man. Don’t do anything
stupid. You know, just relax.” I go, “Man, you know, you’re a
union guy and you’re go—you’re flip-flopping. I don’t get
it, you know.”
Fry denied the he made the “mess with the wrong family”
comment that Garcia attributed to him.
E. Analysis and Conclusions
1. The 8(a)(1) allegations
Prohibiting employees from talking with Union organiz-
ers. Counsel for the Acting General Counsel argues that after
Fry, an admitted supervisor and agent of Respondent, learned
on May 25 that the Union intended to visit the Company’s

27 Garcia said this event occurred in late May or early June. How-
ever, the time record shows that Kaye first returned to the Ontario Mills
job on June 10 after spending a month at other jobsites. Garcia also
returned to Ontario Mills on June 10 after working elsewhere.
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jobsites and talk with its employees, he repeatedly told employ-
ees that they should not talk with the union agents when they
came to the jobsite. She argues this occurred on the following
instances: (1) Schoepfer on May 25 at Target; (2) Van Gessel
on May 25 at Target; (3) Garcia on May 25 on the phone; (4)
Kolisar on May 26 at Target; (5) five or six workers on May 26
or 27 at Target; (6) Montes on June 1 at Target; and (7) Kolisar
on June 6 at Los Angeles. Respondent argues that most of
these exchanges did not occur. As to Fry’s discussion with the
group of workers on May 26 or 27 at the Target job, Respond-
ent argues that Fry lawfully informed employees that they
could not talk with union organizers during work time but they
could during their break and lunch times.
There is no evidence that the Respondent maintains a written
solicitation or distribution policy so the issue here concerns
Fry’s ad hoc verbal instructions to employees about talking
with union organizers. I credit the testimony showing that Fry
repeatedly told a variety of employees individually that they
should not talk to the union organizers if they came to the
jobsites. The accounts of Kolisar and Van Gessel were, in my
judgment, particularly credible based on their demeanor and the
descriptive detail they provided that is confirmed by other evi-
dence. For this reason, and the fact that similar reports also
came from other employee sources convinces me that, even
though Fry may have provided an extended explanation when
he spoke to the group at the Target job, at other times he simply
resorted to a shorthand, sweeping prohibition against talking
with the union agents at the jobsite.
The test as to whether Fry’s oral statements violated Section
8(a)(1) is an objective one, that is, whether they would reason-
ably tend to interfere with, threaten, or coerce employees in the
exercise of their Section 7 rights rather than whether they actu-
ally did. Alliance Steel Products, 340 NLRB 495 (2003). I
have concluded that the Acting General Counsel has proven
with credible evidence that Respondent’s agent Fry, on several
occasions when speaking with employees, told them not to talk
with union organizers if they came to the jobsite. This broad
proscription against engaging in protected activities that ex-
tended even to nonworking time violated Section 8(a)(1). Our
Way, 268 NLRB 394 (1983).
Interrogating employees about union activities. Counsel
for the Acting General Counsel argues that Respondent’s su-
pervisor, Robert Fry, unlawfully interrogated employees when
he: (1) questioned Garcia on May 25 as to what he told the
union organizers who came to the Ontario Mills job that day;
(2) asked Kolisar in late May if he had signed a union card; (3)
questioned Kaye at the Ontario Mills job on or about June 10
about signing a union card; (4) questioned Van Gessel on June
9 about where he stood on the union issue; (5) questioned Gar-
cia in late May if he was a “a Union guy”; and (6) questioned
Kolisar if he had been in the Union. Respondent relies on Fry’s
denials that he questioned employees in the foregoing instanc-
es.
In Standard Coosa-Thatcher Co., 85 NLRB 1358, 1362,
(1949), the Board articulated its underlying rationale for con-
cluding that coercive interrogation violates Section 8(a)(1). In
that case it posited that experience taught that employees inter-
rogated about their union membership or sympathies are fre-
quently discharged or discriminated against. For that reason,
the Board concluded that “employers who engage in this prac-
tice are not motivated by idle curiosity, but rather by a desire to
rid themselves of union adherents.” But subsequently the
Board rejected a per se approach to interrogation cases and
stated that, in evaluating cases of that genre, it would consider
the time, the place, the personnel involved, the information
sought and the employer overall outlook concerning unionism.
Blue Flash Express, 109 NLRB 591 (1954). For the past sever-
al years the Board has used a test that requires an examination
of all relevant circumstances surrounding the interrogation of
an employee in deciding whether the questioning violates the
law. Rossmore House, 269 NLRB 1176 (1984), enfd. sub nom.
Hotel & Restaurant Employees Local 11 v. NLRB, 760 F.2d
1006 (9th Cir. 1985). Illustrative of the factors often consid-
ered by the Board and the courts over the years where the inter-
rogation itself lacks a threatening element include: (1) the
background of employer hostility, if any; (2) the nature of the
information sought; (3) the identity of the questioner; (4) the
place and method of interrogation; (5) the truthfulness of the
reply; (6) the existence of a valid purpose of the questioning;
(7) whether such valid purpose was communicated to the em-
ployee; and (8) whether assurances against reprisals were giv-
en. Paceco, 247 NLRB 1405 (1980). See also Bourne v. NLRB,
332 F.2d 47 (2d Cir. 1964).
As to the Acting General Counsel’s argument that Fry un-
lawfully interrogated Garcia on May 25, I find that no reliable
evidence exists to support that claim. As found above, Garcia’s
account of the content of the May 25 phone call when this
questioning supposedly occurred is not at all reliable. For that
reason, and my further conclusion that the evidence is insuffi-
cient to find that this belated claim has been fully litigated as
Respondent had no discernible way of knowing that this off-
hand comment contained in Garcia’s testimony would figure in
the scope of a Board order, I reject the Acting General Coun-
sel’s claim that Fry unlawfully questioned Garcia on May 25.
Based on all of the circumstances, I have concluded that the
remaining interrogation claims by the Acting General Counsel
have merit. Preliminarily, I find that the questioning occurred
in the context of Respondent’s hostility toward unionization
that included the unlawful termination of one employee, and
threats to close the business if it became unionized. In addition,
all of the questioning was conducted by Robert Fry, Respond-
ent’s highest ranking field manager, from whom the Compa-
ny’s employees most often receive their jobsite assignments,
during confrontations either at the employee’s work area or on
the telephone. Moreover, at least some of the employees be-
came aware that Fry believed that one or more of the employ-
ees had been providing the Union with information about the
locations of Respondent’s jobsites to aid in the organizational
campaign. No evidence reflects a valid purpose for the ques-
tioning that I find unlawful or that Fry ever provided the em-
ployees with an explanation for the interrogations; in fact, Fry
denied that most of them ever occurred. Finally, none of the
employees unlawfully interrogated received any assurance that
there would be no reprisals.
Two of the incidents, Fry’s remarks to Garcia after seeing his
picture in a union publication and his remarks to Kaye after
DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD174
questioning him about signing a union card are accompanied by
outright threats, to wit, he would take anyone causing union
trouble “out to the desert”, and Murray would close the busi-
ness if unionized. In addition, Fry engaged in an extended
harangue to Kaye about the Union’s out-of-work list obviously
designed to influence his freedom of choice about supporting
the Union’s organizing effort. In both instances the tone of the
engagement was unmistakably hostile. I find the questioning in
both cases violated Section 8(a)(1).
The questioning of Van Gessel about where he stood on the
union issue was unlawfully coercive. Although it took place
over the phone, it occurred during the employee’s effort to
learn about his next jobsite assignment. The nonanswer Van
Gessel concocted on the spot and used in replying to Fry re-
veals the trepidation he obviously felt from his supervisor’s
probing question. Accordingly, I find Fry’s questioning of Van
Gessel in this instance violated Section 8(a)(1).
I find no evidence that Fry ever questioned Kolisar about
signing a union card, the incident. Instead, the evidence shows
that Fry confronted Kolisar, accused him of signing a union
card, and then proceeded to belittle him in a hostile manner for
doing so. This evidence merits the conclusion that Fry’s in-
your-face aggressiveness sought to intimidate Kolisar to a de-
gree that would dissuade him from supporting the Union. For
that reason, I find the event violated Section 8(a)(1) even
though it did not amount to coercive interrogation technically.
And in view of this incident, I also find Fry violated Section
8(a)(1) when he subsequently interrogated Kolisar at the BYD
job about belonging to the Union. The fact that Kolisar lied to
Fry at that time is consistent with the browbeating Fry subject-
ed him to earlier about the Union.
Threatening employees. Counsel for the Acting General
Counsel asserts that various threats uttered by Fry and Powell
violated Section 8(a)(1). Specifically, her brief points to the
following: (1) Fry’s threat on June 1 to fire Montes and Taloa if
they talked to union organizers expected at the Target job that
day; (2) Fry’s threat to “take any of the guys . . . to the desert”
if they caused him to have “trouble from the Union”; (3) Fry’s
statement to Garcia that whoever was behind the organizing
would pay for messing with the wrong family; and (4) the
threats by Fry and Powell that Murray would close the business
if the employees opted for union representation. Respondent’s
principal defense is that the events never happened.
Although an employer, and by extension the employer’s
agents and supervisors may “communicate to his employees
any of his general views about unionism or any of his specific
views about a particular union,” the communication violates
Section 8(a)(1) if it contains a threat of reprisal or force or
promise of benefit. NLRB v. Gissel Packing Co., 395 US 575,
618 (1968).
I find all of the threats advanced in the Acting General
Counsel’s brief are based on credible evidence by the employee
witnesses involved. All are unmistakable threats. Two use
metaphors intended to convey a threat of physical harm, i.e.,
the trip to the desert statement, and the messing with the wrong
family statement. The others threaten adverse economic conse-
quences might result from unionization efforts in the form of
discharge or the closing of the business. The threat to close in
particular, even though uttered by low-level supervisors or
agents who lack authority to effect a closure, “naturally tend to
have a coercive effect on employees’ exercise of their statutori-
ly protected right to decide freely whether to become represent-
ed.” Mid-South Drywall Co., 339 NLRB 480, 481 (2003).
Accordingly, I find these threats violate Section 8(a)(1).
2. The 8(a)(3) allegations
The outcome here turns on Respondent’s motive for the
layoff of Schoepfer, its failure to put Flanders back to work
after his vacation, and its termination of Montes. Counsel for
the Acting General Counsel argues that Schoepfer’s layoff and
Flanders’ failure to receive further assignments after the Me-
morial Day weekend resulted from Respondent’s mistaken
belief that they served as union spies. She also argues that
Montes’ open engagements with union agents at the Target job
and his support of the Union by his signing of a union card
caused his termination.
Robert Schoepfer. Respondent’s counsel asserts that
Schoepfer’s layoff resulted from his failure to exhibit the kind
of speed it needed to get the Target job back on schedule; that
Flanders, who also failed to exhibit the kind of speed it needed
at the Target job, failed to contact Fry as instructed after the
Memorial Day weekend for further work; and that Montes was
terminated because he spent too much time talking and too little
time working.
I have concluded evidence shows that Respondent terminat-
ed Schoepfer because of its mistaken belief he was a union
informant. I have further concluded that the Acting General
Counsel failed to prove that Respondent violated the Act with
respect to Flanders and Montes.
The Board employs a causation test in determining the mo-
tive underlying an employer’s adverse action against an em-
ployee. Wright Line, 251 NLRB 1083 (1980), enfd. on other
grounds 662 F.2d 899 (1st Cir. 1981), cert. denied 455 U.S. 989
(1982). Later, the Supreme Court approved the Wright Line
causation test in NLRB v. Transportation Management Corp.,
462 U.S. 393 (1983). That test requires the Acting General
Counsel to first persuade that a substantial or motivating factor
for the employer’s challenged action is prohibited by the Act.
If the Acting General Counsel meets that burden, then the bur-
den of persuasion shifts to the employer to prove as an affirma-
tive defense that it would have taken the same action even in
the absence of the employee’s protected activity. Dir. v.
Greenwich Collieries, 512 U.S. 267, 278 (1994). See also
Manno Electric, 321 NLRB 278, 280 fn. 12 (1996), and the
cases cited there.
To carry the initial burden, the Acting General Counsel must
establish, either by direct or circumstantial evidence, that: (1)
the employee engaged in protected activity; (2) the employer
knew of that activity; and (3) the employer took adverse action
against the employee motivated in substantial part by the em-
ployee’s protected activity. FPC Moldings, Inc. v. NLRB, 64
F.3d 935, 942 (4th Cir. 1995), enfg. 314 NLRB 1169 (1994).
If that burden is met, then the burden of persuasion shifts to
the employer to establish that the same action would have been
taken even in the absence of the employee’s protected conduct.
An employer cannot carry its burden by merely showing that a
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nondiscriminatory reason for taking the adverse action existed.
Instead it must persuade by a preponderance of the evidence
that the same action would have been taken even absent the
employee’s protected activity. NLRB v. Rockline Industries,
412 F.3d 962, 970 (8th Cir. 2005); Hicks Oils & Hicksgas, 293
NLRB 84, 85 (1989), enfd. 942 F.2d 1140 (7th Cir. 1991).
I find that the Acting General Counsel satisfied the initial
burden required of him with strong evidence of a discriminato-
ry motive as to Schoepfer’s termination on May 25. Fry admit-
ted to Garcia and then Powell admitted to Montes that Schoep-
fer had been terminated because of Fry’s belief that Schoepfer
was the union “mole” or “spy” who disclosed the location of
Respondent’s jobsites to the union organizers. Disclosing in-
formation such as the location of an employer’s jobsites to aid
union organizers in locating and speaking with employees
about the benefits of union representation constitutes an em-
ployee activity protected by Section 7. C.S. Telecom, 336
NLRB 1193 (2001) (employee’s “conduct in notifying the Un-
ion of the Respondent’s jobsites was protected by Section 7.”).
Hence, these admissions amount to direct evidence of Re-
spondent’s unlawful motive.
Moreover, it matters not that Fry mistakenly fingered
Schoepfer as the mole or spy who divulged the jobsite location
information to the Union as the Act is violated if an employer
acts against the employee merely on the belief that he has en-
gaged in protected activities. Henning & Cheadle, Inc. v.
NLRB, 522 F.2d 1050, 1052 (7th Cir. 1975). The credited ad-
missions by Fry and Powell, combined with the timing of
Schoepfer’s layoff on the same day that union organizers began
visiting Respondent’s jobsites, supports an inference of an anti-
union motive at work that is both a “strong one” and “stunning-
ly obvious.” NLRB v. Adams Delivery Service, 623 F.2d 96, 99
(9th Cir. 1980); NLRB v. Rubin, 424 F.2d 748, 750 (2d Cir.
1970). Accordingly, I find that the Acting General Counsel
satisfied his Wright Line burden as to Schoepfer.
As the Acting General Counsel met his burden in this in-
stance, the burden of persuasion shifted to Respondent to es-
tablish its affirmative defense that Schoepfer was laidoff for
cause, i.e., because of his work deficiencies and the diminishing
amount of work available generally. Respondent failed to
prove that defense. As to the former, Respondent’s managers
and supervisors knew of Schoepfer’s limitations almost from
the beginning. Despite that, they continued to utilize Schoepfer
on various projects. This delay in ridding itself of an unsatis-
factory employee lends support to the conclusion that the mo-
tive for Schoepfer’s termination sprung from another cause.
As to the latter, Respondent hired two employees (Montes
and Taloa) with far less experience at the very time that it let
Schoepfer go and then hired two more when it fired them two
weeks later. Given the strength of the Acting General Coun-
sel’s case, I find Respondent’s general assertions concerning
the reasons for letting Schoepfer go unconvincing. Because
Respondent failed to establish its affirmative defense by a pre-
ponderance of the evidence, I conclude that Respondent violat-
ed Section 8(a)(1) and (3) by terminating Schoepfer on May 25.
Donn Flanders. Counsel for the Acting General Counsel
seeks to piggy back Flanders lack of work on to the Schoepfer’s
layoff on the basis that these two workers were friends the
Company always teamed up because they ordinarily carpooled
together.28 In addition, counsel for the Acting General Counsel
cites Garcia’s belated recollection that Fry identified Flanders,
along with Schoepfer, as a union mole during their conversa-
tions on May 25. Respondent argues that Flanders simply
failed to pursue work opportunities with Respondent as Fry
requested him to do after returning from his vacation and that it
had little reason to pursue him.
I find the Acting General Counsel failed to prove that Flan-
ders’ lack of employment with Respondent was substantially
motivated by his protected activity. Flanders engaged in no
specific protected activity beyond maintaining his membership
in Local 105 that he had held for more than a decade. No evi-
dence shows that he made a point of disclosing his Local 105
membership or spoke of it to anyone while employed by Re-
spondent. The sole basis for the Acting General Counsel’s
assertion that Respondent believed that Flanders also was a
mole or spy for the Union, is found in Garcia’s belated asser-
tion, which I do not credit, that Fry suspected him of the same
type of duplicity he so forcefully attributed to Schoepfer. In
this connection, it is worthy of note that Powell’s statement to
Montes on the morning of May 26 about Schoepfer, which
provides a degree of corroboration to Garcia’s account of his
conversation with Fry on May 25 about Schoepfer, makes no
mention of Flanders. Moreover, Flanders’ assertion that
Schoepfer and he came to the Company as a team is not entire-
ly accurate, at least to the extent that they were hired as a pair.
Schoepfer sought and acquired employment first and then
passed along to Flanders Fry’s offer to hire other qualified
craftsmen that Schoepfer knew about.
Although Respondent probably knew or suspected that Flan-
ders belonged to the Union, nothing in this record provides a
basis for inferring that the Company’s managers or supervisors
snubbed Flanders after he returned from vacation because of his
Local 105 membership. Ample evidence supports an inference
that Respondent’s supervisors knew or suspected that other
workers also belonged to Local 105 but they took no adverse
action against anyone other than Schoepfer. Nor is there suffi-
cient evidence that Respondent refused to provide Flanders
with further assignments because he was closely aligned with
Schoepfer. Instead, Flanders presumed that he had been let go
because Schoepfer had been fired.
I find Flanders’ assumption unsupportable. I credit Fry’s
claim that he asked Flanders to contact him after the Memorial
Day holiday weekend. Admittedly, Flanders did not do so
because of the erroneous assumption he made about his own
status. This fact, coupled with the marked drop off in available
work during June lends support to Respondent’s case concern-
ing Flanders. Accordingly, I have concluded that the evidence
is insufficient to conclude that Respondent’s failure to offer
Flanders work opportunities in the month of June resulted from
any animus harbored toward his union affiliation or his associa-

28 The time records confirm the claim that the two men always
worked on the same project save for May 17, Flanders last day of work,
when Schoepfer is shown to have worked at both Ontario Mills and
Target but Flanders only worked at Target.
DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD176
tion with Schoepfer. For that reason, I recommend dismissal of
the Flanders’ allegation.
Oscar Montes. I find that the Acting General Counsel failed
to provide an adequate basis for concluding that Montes union
activities or sympathies motivated Respondent, in substantial
part or otherwise, to terminate this employee. Montes’ engaged
in only minimal activity that Respondent’s supervisor or agents
knew about. This evidence amounts to nothing more than the
fact that Powell may have seen him speaking to a union organ-
izer at the Target job on an occasion where it is reasonable to
infer that Powell probably saw every other employee on the job
speak to a union organizer. There is no basis in this record to
infer that Respondent knew that Montes signed a union card
sometime during the evening of June 6 at a location some dis-
tance from the Target job where he worked for Respondent. In
sum, it seems overly charitable to characterize the Acting Gen-
eral Counsel case for Montes as flimsy at best.
But assuming that the Acting General Counsel’s case met the
Wright Line burden, I find Respondent has provided a compel-
ling case that Montes would have been terminated even absent
Montes’ minimal protected activity that Respondent might
possibly have know about. It was clear from listening to Mon-
tes’ own testimony that Ramos, a woman totally unfamiliar
with even his name, would question him about what exactly he
was doing on the job. I am satisfied based on Ramos’ very
credible testimony that she confronted both Montes and Taloa
because she observed them goofing off on company time and
that she strongly recommended that Murray fire the two of
them. After confirming who Ramos had observed from Powell,
Murray followed Ramos’ recommendation and directed the
discharge of both employees for wasting time on the job. Ac-
cordingly, I recommend the dismissal of the Montes’ allega-
tion.
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1. The Respondent, Murray Mechanical Services, Inc., is an
employer engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section
2(2), (6), and (7) of the Act.
2. The Union, Sheet Metal Workers’ International Associa-
tion, Local Union 105, AFL–CIO, is a labor organization with-
in the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act.
3. By prohibiting employees from talking with union organ-
izers at any time on its jobsites, interrogating employees about
their union activities and sympathies, and threatening employ-
ees for engaging in union activities, Respondent violated Sec-
tion 8(a)(1) of the Act.
4. By terminating Robert Schoepfer on May 25, 2011, Re-
spondent violated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act.
5. The unfair labor practices described above affect com-
merce within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act.
REMEDY
Having found that the Respondent has engaged in certain un-
fair labor practices, I find that it must be ordered to cease and
desist and to take certain affirmative action designed to effectu-
ate the policies of the Act.
Specifically, having found that the Respondent has violated
Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act by terminating Robert
Schoepfer because it believed he provided information to the
Union about its jobsite locations, my recommended order re-
quires Respondent to offer Schoepfer full reinstatement to his
former job or, if that job no longer exists, to a substantially
equivalent position, without prejudice to his seniority or any
other rights or privileges previously enjoyed and to make
Schoepfer whole for any loss of earnings and other benefits
suffered as a result of the Respondent’s unlawful actions
against him. Backpay shall be computed in accordance with F.
W. Woolworth Co., 90 NLRB 289 (1950), with interest as pre-
scribed in New Horizons, 283 NLRB 1173 (1987), compounded
daily as prescribed in Kentucky River Medical Center, 356
NLRB 6 (2010). In accordance with the recent decision in
Latino Express, Inc., 359 NLRB 518 (2012), my recommended
order requires Respondent to compensate Schoepfer for the
adverse tax consequences, if any, of receiving a lump-sum
backpay award and to file a report with the Social Security
Administration allocating the backpay award to the appropriate
calendar quarters for Schoepfer.
My recommended order also requires Respondent to remove
from its files any reference to Schoepfer’s unlawful termination
on May 25, 2011, and to notify Schoepfer in writing that this
has been done and that the unlawful discharge will not be used
against him in any way.
Finally, the recommended order requires Respondent to post
a notice informing employees of the outcome of this matter and
to mail that notice to those employees who worked on the
jobsites that have been completed in the interim period.
On these findings of fact and conclusions of law and on the
entire record, I issue the following recommended29
ORDER
The Respondent, Evolution Mechanical Services, Inc., f/k/a
Murray Mechanical Services, Inc., Buena Park, California, its
officers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall
1. Cease and desist from
(a) Prohibiting employees from talking to union organizers
on their own time at the job.
(b) Coercively questioning employees about their union ac-
tivities or sympathies.
(c) Threatening physical harm to employees for engaging in
union activities.
(d) Threatening that the owner will close the business if em-
ployees opt to be represented by a labor organization.
(e) Discharging or otherwise discriminating against any em-
ployee believed to be supporting the Union by providing its
organizers with the location of its jobsites.
(f) In any like or related manner interfering with, restraining,
or coercing employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed
them by Section 7 of the Act.
2. Take the following affirmative action necessary to effec-
tuate the policies of the Act.
(a) Within 14 days from the date of the Board’s Order, offer

29 Absent exceptions as provided by Sec. 102.46 of the Board’s
Rules and Regulations, the findings, conclusions, and recommended
Order shall, as provided in Sec. 102.48 of the Rules, be adopted by the
Board and all objections to them shall be deemed waived for all pur-
poses.
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Robert Schoepfer full reinstatement to his former job or, if that
job no longer exists, to a substantially equivalent position,
without prejudice to his seniority or any other rights or privi-
leges he previously enjoyed.
(b) Make Robert Schoepfer whole for any loss of earnings
and other benefits suffered as a result of the discrimination
against him, as set forth in the remedy section of this decision.
(c) Compensate Robert Schoepfer for the adverse tax conse-
quences, if any, of receiving a lump-sum backpay award, and
file a report with the Social Security Administration allocating
the backpay award to the appropriate calendar quarters.
(d) Within 14 days from the date of the Board’s Order, re-
move from its files any reference to the unlawful discharge of
Robert Schoepfer, and within 3 days thereafter notify him in
writing that this has been done and that the discharge will not
be used against him in any way.
(e) Preserve and, within 14 days of a request, or such addi-
tional time as the Regional Director may allow for good cause
shown, provide at a reasonable place designated by the Board
or its agents, all payroll records, social security payment rec-
ords, timecards, personnel records and reports, and all other
records, including an electronic copy of such records if stored
in electronic form, necessary to analyze the amount of backpay
due under the terms of this Order.
(f) Within 14 days after service by the Region, post at its ex-
isting jobsites copies of the attached notice marked “Appen-
dix.”30 Copies of the notice, on forms provided by the Regional
Director for Region 21, after being signed by the Respondent’s
authorized representative, shall be posted by the Respondent
and maintained for 60 consecutive days in conspicuous places
including all places where notices to employees are customarily
posted. In addition to physical posting of paper notices, the
notices shall be distributed electronically, such as by email,
posting on an intranet or an internet site, and/or other electronic
means, if the Respondent customarily communicates with its
employees by such means. Reasonable steps shall be taken by
the Respondent to ensure that the notices are not altered, de-
faced, or covered by any other material. In the event that, dur-
ing the pendency of these proceedings, the Respondent has
gone out of business or closed the jobsites involved in these
proceedings, the Respondent shall duplicate and mail, at its
own expense, a copy of the notice to all current employees and
former employees employed by the Respondent at any time
since May 25, 2011.
(g) Within 21 days after service by the Region, file with the
Regional Director a sworn certification of a responsible official
on a form provided by the Region attesting to the steps that the
Respondent has taken to comply.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the complaint is dismissed inso-
far as it alleges violations of the Act not specifically found.
Dated, Washington, D.C. March 19, 2013.

30 If this Order is enforced by a judgment of a United States court of
appeals, the words in the notice reading “Posted by Order of the Na-
tional Labor Relations Board” shall read “Posted Pursuant to a Judg-
ment of the United States Court of Appeals Enforcing an Order of the
National Labor Relations Board.”
APPENDIX
NOTICE TO EMPLOYEES
POSTED BY ORDER OF THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
An Agency of the United States Government
The National Labor Relations Board has found that we violated
Federal labor law and has ordered us to post and obey this No-
tice.
FEDERAL LAW GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO
Form, join, or assist a union
Choose representatives to bargain with us on your be-
half
Act together with other employees for your benefit and
protection
Choose not to engage in any of these protected activi-
ties
WE WILL NOT prohibit you from talking to organizers of the
Sheet Metal Workers’ International Association, Local 105,
AFL–CIO, (Union) on your own time during work hours.
WE WILL NOT coercively question you about your union ac-
tivities or sympathies.
WE WILL NOT threaten physical harm to you for your union
beliefs or activities.
WE WILL NOT threaten that the owner will close the business
if you opt to be represented by the Union or any other labor
organization.
WE WILL NOT discharge or otherwise discriminate against
you because we believe you support the Union by providing its
organizers with the location of our jobsites.
WE WILL NOT in any like or related manner interfere with, re-
strain, or coerce you in the exercise of the rights guaranteed to
you by Section 7 of the Act.
WE WILL, within 14 days from the date of the Board’s Order,
offer Robert Schoepfer full reinstatement to his former job or, if
that job no longer exists, to a substantially equivalent position,
without prejudice to his seniority or any other rights or privi-
leges previously enjoyed.
WE WILL make Robert Schoepfer whole for any loss of earn-
ings and other benefits suffered as a result of our discrimination
against him together with interest compounded daily.
WE WILL compensate Robert Schoepfer for the adverse tax
consequences, if any, of receiving a lump-sum backpay award,
and file a report with the Social Security Administration allo-
cating the backpay award to the appropriate calendar quarters
for him.
WE WILL, within 14 days from the date of the Board’s Order,
remove from our files any reference to the unlawful discharge
of Robert Schoepfer, and WE WILL, within 3 days thereafter,
notify him in writing that this has been done and that the dis-
charge will not be used against him in any way.
EVOLUTION MECHANICAL SERVICES, INC., AND
MURRAY MECHANICAL SERVICES, INC.