335 So.2d at 824, n. 2, 825. The language which may suggest otherwise in Daughtry v. State, 65 Fla. 415, 62 So. 345 (1913) and Pickett v. State, 202 So.2d 203, 205 (Fla.1st DCA 1967); see also, McQueen v. State, supra, at 503, refers only to the fact that the identity of the offender need not ordinarily be established by independent proof. Allen v. State, supra, at 335 So.2d 825; State v. Snowden, 345 So.2d 856 (Fla. 1st DCA 1977), cert. denied, 353 So.2d 679 (Fla. 1977).
We reject this contention. Although, as the State contends, the corpus delicti rule does not require the establishment of all the elements of the crime, Pickett v. State, Fla. App. 1967, 202 So.2d 203, 205, it does require, at a minimum and as we have seen, proof that a crime has in fact been committed. Sciortino v. State, supra; Jefferson v. Sweat, Fla. 1954, 76 So.2d 494. Even the corpus delicti of first degree murder, which apparently unlike any other crime does not include a requirement (of course necessary for conviction) of intent or premeditation, does include the element, not only of the identity of the deceased, and the fact of death, but also, of the criminal agency of another as the cause thereof . . . Schneider v. State, Fla. 1963, 152 So.2d 731. The state's formulation of the corpus delicti of this crime does not however include even this. There is simply nothing criminal at all merely to be in possession or to dispose of property which happens to have been stolen.
In prior cases Florida courts have dealt with the overt act necessary for an attempted larceny. The defendants in Hall v. State, Fla.App. 1971, 248 So.2d 524, Pickett v. State, Fla.App. 1967, 202 So.2d 203 and Groneau v. State, Fla.App. 1967, 201 So.2d 599 were convicted of attempted larceny and these cases taken together can establish guidelines for defining the overt act necessary for conviction. The evidence in Gustine v. State, supra, was not sufficient to sustain the existence of the overt act necessary for an attempted larceny. After getting into the automobile defendant tried to start the vehicle by disconnecting the locked ignition and making a circuitous wiring capable of starting the engine.